did anyone else notice that in the watchtower its bringing out jesus is the mediator only for the 144,00. and where did they get it that jesus didn't partake of the emblems?!?!
it's crazy how true that scripture is that states that satan blinds the minds of the unbelievers.
but what i don't understand is do you think the governing body is doing this type of stuff like putting stuff in the watchtower like this on purpose since they have the issues only for members of the congregration?
I curious if they are still using the (not, all men) insertion into this scripture. If they are, they're even misquoting their own bible! I looked up other translations and all it says in that there is one mediator between God and men, a man Jesus Christ... all slight variations but nonetheless the same. There is no translation where it says (not, all men). Not even in the NWT:
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
It is much easier to leave if you are not going to lose every friend and loved one.
How sad this is that people lose all social connections when they want to leave. It's funny though, I was never DF'ed or DA'ed. I just sort of disappeared and no one went looking for me. And you CAN leave without losing a single "friend" or family if you do it right. Just fade away. Family will still hope you come back but eventually stop asking. Friends will still call you but the hope of getting you to come back eventually go away.
I've seen this personally with my ex. Family all in, brothers are elders, no one asks anymore. He was a born in too but will never talk about formally leaving, even saying at times that the witnesses are the closest to the truth that there is. Sad.
after perusing through this article sent to us by our lurking jw friend- that's what i took away from this study article entitled " what jehovah's day will reveal " .
this article was printed to keep jw's alert to the alleged urgency of the times - just in case some get puzzled by the new extended overlapping generation theory and lose their sense of urgency.
i think the wt society is covering their backside here , doing possible damage control , and are very nervous about negative fallout in regards to how some jw's may respond to this extended " overlapping generation " theory being pushed.
On pg. 4 , paragraph 6 it states about Satan's influence, " Therefore, knowingly or unknowingly , those infected by the world's spirit allow their minds and hearts to be influenced by Satan, so that they reflect his thinking and attitude. They react to situations on the basis of pride or selfishness, they manifest a rebellious attitude toward authority, and they give free rein to " the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes.
Setting up for mind control in 3, 2, 1...
"I can't disagree with this crap, I'll be just like Satan! It makes no sense, I don't understand why they changed things. I'll be like Satan if I lean on my own understanding. I'll be so selfish. I have to agree or else Jehovah will not love me. Oh my self esteem is taking another nosedive!! Next thing I know I'll be out fornicating and doing drugs!!! Can't have that. Must stay close to the Organization. They will do my thinking for me. I am not a proud or selfish person. I love Jehovah!! But I don't like what this organization is telling me. I'm a bad person to disagree!! Jehovah will not love me anymore if I don't agree with the new light. I know, I'll pioneer! That will make it all better. I'll go out and tell people things I don't really believe so I can MAYBE make it into the New System. Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Lol.... I also like how they are telling people (page 24 paragraph 15) to stay up to date on the publications. Funny how those of us on the outside know more than they do!
this has been discussed...and discussed...and discussed some more on this board.
but i thought i'd go ahead and put down my thoughts on why the wts changed the meaning of "generation" again in 2010, after changing it in 2008. in short, i think the 2008 "new light" caused many jws to doubt that the end is imminent, so the wts tweaked the meaning of "generation" to re-kindle the zeal in the flock.
a bit more explanation follows below.. for the sake of completeness, here is a list of the society's various meanings of "generation" over the last few decades:.
I remember when things changed in 1995 and could not wrap my head around what they were trying to tell us. Going back now and reading it, it still makes no sense. It wasn't "deeper" it was just contrived. It didn't make sense because it didn't make any sense!
Of more impact to me was the followup article about the sheep and the goats. We were no longer part of the separating work. I had been taught from the beginning that that is what we were doing. It made the rejections so much easier to take. Now we were just supposed to go out and preach and pass out bible literature? No thank you. Still wouldn't go back even if they flip flopped on this one. It just made the light go on in so many other doctrines. Oh the lies and misleadings. For what?
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
I predict many more will jump ship soon. The light gets brighter until they are blinded or wake up. I would hope more wake up.
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
I recerived Crisis of Conscience today, don't forget to order it if you hadn't already.
Read it and In Search of Christian Freedom. Liberating!! Had to read them in secret though. Shhhhhhh....
only after joining the jehovah's witnesses did i ever hear women referred to as "weaker vessels".
how does that make you feel?.
JW Speak for Dummies
Weaker Vessel: Another name for female. Missing a penis therefore is dumber. Incapable of making own decisions and is to be avoided. Bleeds monthly and is to be feared. Frequently irrational due to this malfunction, gets worse with age. (See Menopause).
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Yeah, that always having to do more made me feel so inadequate. I had 4 kids to drag out in field service and get to the meetings. How could I possibly do more, or even pioneer? Oh wait, it was my fault for having so many kids... that's it.
I asked a CO one time what it meant that every time I prayed to pioneer I got pregnant. He said it meant I needed to use birth control Thanks for that jackass! It only helped to push me out the door.
but the understanding is affirmed in the revelation climax book, albeit with less detail.
the events are as follows (& i'm keeping the quotes really short) :.
1st angel - "it all began during the bible students cedar point convention in september 1922. there gods people enthusiastically adopted a resolution entitled "a challenge.
I thought it was true because they said it was true.
Then I woke up.... and said WTF?
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
I'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months. It's good to know that I'm not alone in my ex-JW status and that my story and experiences are not unique. I have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since I left some 12 years ago. What has stayed is the sadness for others who are stuck in the religion. For fear of losing family and friends, they stay, holding fast to something they know is not true but fearful of what lies on the other side. It IS frightening to leave. You question everything, from yourself, to the Bible, to God, to Jesus, to humanity. Nothing makes sense in the beginning. But what I've found is it's simpler to just breathe. Take each day as it comes and be honest with yourself. Love the life you are given and live it to the full. Do something nice for someone whenever you can. Take care of the earth by recycling and reusing. Smile nicely when the JW's come to the door and say no thank you. (Although I do sometimes like to tell them I'm an ex. They take a step backwards. hehe)
A little of my background: Started to study in 1984, baptized in '85 (six month wonder!). Doubts from the beginning (never agreed with the blood issue since multiple transfusions saved my life and my unborn child long before this point) but decided to go with it because I felt they were right on so many other issues. It wasn't long before I started seeing the wrong. God doesn't deal with individuals only organizations?? What the...??? Started to see holes in the "love among themselves" when people were disfellowshipped instead of helped. Always having to do more to be approved by God. On and on I could go but it would be pointless and would just start to make me angry again and I don't want to waste my energy on that. Anyway, I started the leave in 1995 but it took a full 3 years before I could finally tell my spouse that I didn't want to be a JW anymore. It was hell at home for the next couple of years until we finally divorced. Since that time, life has not been easy but even now, the worst day I have is better than the best day as a JW. I'm not beset by doubts anymore. My life is mine! No longer face the scrutiny of elders or fellow JW's for not doing enough.
To those of who want to leave but feel they can't, my heart goes out to you. "Only be strong and very brave".
