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Gerrit Loesch was at our DC today!

by goatshapeddemon in

so, unexpectedly, the final talk was announced today and to my surprise and evil glee, they announced gerrit loesch as the speaker!

first off, at the beginning of his talk, he interrupted himself in the middle of his sentence to scold the microphone brother to lower my mike it's right in my face.. anyway, it was the talk on inspired truth, vs. inspired falsehoods.

he went through 6 expressions inspired by the demons.

respectful_observer

Someone on JWN once mentioned that if 18 years of Jw conditioning and upbringing can be undone in a couple of years in tertiary education, then the 'truth' must be pretty flimsy indeed.

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I said something similar a few months ago on this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/246273/1/Who-Is-The-Biggest-Control-Freak-On-The-Governing-Body-Anthony-Morris-III-Gets-My-Vote

"What does it mean when a J-dub youth who has spend 18+ YEARS going to 5 meetings a week, preparing for those meetings, preparing and delivering talks, going in the ministry, doing personal study, Family Worship, D/C, SAD, CAs, etc. is convinced by a single professor teaching a single 12 week course?"

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Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

by sosoconfused in

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friends

http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

253 acres???

respectful_observer

It will be amusing to see how tour groups will flock to this project once it's complete. Coach buses lined up with JWs eager to tour and take countless pictures of....

...offices!!!

Given it's location on the edge of the lake, I'm sure it will have quite picturesque views-- so much so that nary an hour will pass without someone in the endless stream of tour groups saying "Oh how beautiful! I feel like I'm standing in one of the illustrations of the Paradise! This must be what it will feel like in the New World TM !!!

All that is needed is to have lion cubs and panda bears wandering the property to complete the experience.

R_O

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2010 Convention Outlines, including Overlapping Generation Talk

by James Jackson in

i found all the 2010 dc talk outlines including the the last talk about "this generation" update.

would anyone be interested in them?.

respectful_observer

and this thread will explode in 3....2....1.....

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The Prodigal Returns

by TimothyT in

hi guys.

its been a while.. as it is convention time i was just intrigued as to the new releases so i came on here and saw a new dvd.

i decided to go on to youtube where i found it and watched it.

respectful_observer

TimothyT, you have a PM.

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Overlapping Generations: A wacky kool-aid thread

by RayPublisher in

another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.

they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.

warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.

respectful_observer

If they want to, they will say the great tribulation will have started.

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BINGO!!! After all if Jesus took his throne in 1914, and he's decided to take 99 years (and counting) to actually start executing judgement, the arguement can be made that the GT can START during the overlapping generation, but is there any restriction on how long it can actually last?

Future WT quote decades from now:

"In the early 20th century, even events as extreme as World War I were not enough for human goverments and their followers to realize these momentous events were a visible sign that Jesus Christ had cast Satan and his demon followers out of heaven and taken his seat as his throne. So today too, Satan continues to 'blind the minds of the unbelievers' (2 Cor 4:4), not allowing them to realize that the world conditions we see around us today are in fact a visible sign that the foretold Great Tribulation has already begun. Although Jehovah has not revealed the exact length of the Great Tribulation, we can have confidence that as he directs his earthly organization through these historic events, that He will continue to provide life-saving "food at the proper time" through his Faithful Slave (Matt 24:45). How important it is, then, that we stick close to and listen to the Faithful Slave to ensure we remain in God's protection as this Great Tribulation we're experiencing becomes evident to all mankind. Without such vigilence, we become like those in Noah's day who 'took no note' (Matt 24:39)."

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Family is drawing the line in the sand

by dissonance_resolved in

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so my family has obviously been noticing over the past several months that i've been missing meetings and fs.

i've had excuses sometimes, but not others, so my parents are definitely getting that this is more than a long bout of illnesses or fatigue.

i just received an email invitation to join them in service this weekend.

respectful_observer

go teaching what amounts to "truth de jour"

How true. Maybe I'll use that line one of these days.

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jw.org store in Rouen, France

by breakfast of champions in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.

naaaahh.

we're not a business.

respectful_observer

What a progressive venture for the brothers to take. It is clear that the brothers are doing ALL they can to help reach as many as possible. The use of technology has helped to spread the Truth to more than ever before, and now, a "store" in a high traffic area.

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I wonder if that's what was also said when the first Christian Scientist Reading Room opened ONE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE years ago....

Real cutting edge methods....

As an aside, I'd be surprised if this was a creation of the Branch. It's much more likely that the local congregation went way overboard in the new mobile display campaign. (I'm guessing a brother owned the empty store front and now gets a tax write off for "donating" to a non-profit.)

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Reports from JW's regarding the summer convention

by Lynnie in

so, we're in the final countdown with the convention just over a month away.

i've talked to a few folks that have already attended it on the east coast and west coast and keep hearing that its the most up-building program they've ever been to.

seems the message is clear that we need to stop being so hard on ourselves and take time to appreciate the efforts we have put in and know that we are deeply loved.

respectful_observer

I've talked to a few folks that have already attended it on the East coast and West coast and keep hearing thatits the most up-building program they've ever been to.

Funny, I'll bet they said the same thing about last year's convention...and the year before that...and the year before that.

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NEW NWT'S Distributed at 2013 Conventions?

by TheSnarkyApologist in

chatter on the street is that there exists a very high possiblility of the new newworld translation being distributed.

it comes from a reliable sources, but who knows.

has anyone heard anything about this?.

respectful_observer

Now that the DCs have started for the season, we're well aware that an updated NWT is NOT being released at the convention.

Since so many congregations are now out of Bibles (and many have been since late 2012), I encountered a couple of humorous takes on the situation...

1. One elder recently deadpanned to me: "Hey, did you hear that the Watchtower Society is changing it's legal name?" Of course my first thought was "No, and how is it I haven't heard this on JWN???"

"Yeah, they've decided to rename it 'Watchtower Tract Society'...since everyone's beginning to assume they've given up on printing Bibles!"

2. Someone else also showed me a printout of the DC Program. Everything looked and read exactly the same, except instead of the title reading "God's Word is Truth", it had a smaller second line in the same font that read: "But we can't give it to you!"

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Awkward moment at the WT study today

by FadeToBlack in

when we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?

the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.

for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!

respectful_observer

I decided I had to comment on the B. question for paragraph 16. My comment was:

"The Beroeans heard this new information from Paul, and did the right thing by going back to the scriptures to prove to themselves that what he was teaching was true-- they weren't lazy and just assumed this new teaching from Paul was supported by scripture, they realized they were responsible for their own salvation, which required they prove this new teaching to themselves. That's why daily Bible reading is still crucial for us today. We just reviewed 3 different teachings that have changed recently. When we heard each of these changes, did we open our Bibles and prove it to ourselves, or were we lazy and just assumed it must be right? It's something we should all keep in mind next time the Governing Body (I refuse to use the term "Faithful & Discreet Slave") changes a teaching."

Then on paragraph 18, I said:

"As we discussed earlier, that is why it is so important that when the Governing Body changes a teaching, we take the time to open our Bibles and prove it to ourselves. It's so often because of these changes that people choose to leave the Organization and be considered "apostate"; if we haven't proven these changes to ourselves from the Bible, we will find ourselves unprepared if we're in position where we're challenged to prove that teaching from the Bible."

The conductor didn't seem to flinch at either comment, although in both cases he simply moved on to the next paragraph. I don't imagine anyone there really listened to what I said, but it felt nice to say something out loud that was honest, maybe will make someone think, and is completely defensible if someone suspects I'm "mentally diseased."

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