Posts by jukief

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risk taking

by joelbear in

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well, i'm getting closer and closer to turning my life upside down and breaking away from my 43 years of conservative living.

any risk experiences out there?.

the risk i want to take is leaving banking, living a much more bohemiam life, maybe work as a waiter or bartender or something, go to school, travel, work on my furniture art, write, read, live.. aaaack.

jukief

Hi joelbear.

We took a risk a few years ago by accepting overseas jobs. Alan was a bit reluctant, but I desperately wanted to go. Even though it didn't last the five years we intended, it was the best thing we ever did. We got to live in Europe for 15 months, during which time we did as much traveling as we possibly could and made some wonderful friends. It was a very enriching experience.

If I didn't have children to get through college right now, I'd be on Alan's case to move back to Europe. I hope we'll get to some day.

Another risk I took about seven years ago was to decide to sell my house and move from Colorado to Oregon to be with Alan, whom at that point I'd never met in person. :-)

I say, go for it! Life's too short not to do the things you long to do. As Joseph Campbell said, find your bliss.

Julie F

PS If you decide to be a drag queen, I want to know where you're performing! :-)

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Women admit to regular lies

by JanH in

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women admit to regular lies .

nearly one in four british women would try to conceive without their partner's consent if they wanted a baby, research suggests.

a survey by women's magazine that's life!, found that many women are prepared to lie about almost any aspect of their life.

jukief

Yeah, but Jan, those are *English* women. You know that American women would never stoop so low!

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what job could you have had?

by sleepy in

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hi i've just come home from cleaning windows.what an absolutely soul destroying job.. when i think of the things i could have done.. i remmember how my teachers in school used to tell me i would surely go to university and get a good job.i remmember the shock on one teachers face a few years after i left school when i told her i was a window cleaner.. i was also intrested in art and quite good at it.my grandfather who wasn't a witness offered to help me and my brother get good jobs in the art world.. we turned him down.. arrmegeddon was so soon.. anyone else like me ?.

what do you do and what could you have done?

jukief

Sleepy, when I was 30 years old I went through a divorce and quit going to meetings. I had two young sons to support (my ex wasn't the least interested in custody and paid me a lousy $300/month child support). At the time I was working in a glass shop (the only woman glazier). It had absolutely no future; when things got slow they'd send me home. I had no benefits. I didn't know what to do to raise my kids because I'd never gone to college and had no training.

My sister suggested I go to college. I didn't think there was any possible way I could do it because I had to work to support my children, right? Well, that's when I found out about financial aid. Because I was head of a household, I qualified for the highest level of aid. The whole time I was in college I got a Pell grant that covered my tuition (and at first, my books). I also got work study and I took out students loans. I worked full time during breaks and I managed to get by. I got my degree and have had a really good career.

Don't give up. If you really want to do it, you can find a way. Look into grants and loans and scholarships.

Good luck!

Julie F

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Best urban legends, you heard in the org?

by Nicolas in

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personnally, i heard a lot of urban legends about the presence of a devil in a house.

it was always the same kind of story about a devil who lived in a house and then the jw arrive and they pray jehovah and suddendly, the demon go away...

jukief

Other than the normal walking Smurfs and demonized troll dolls, here's a couple of local ones I heard growing up.

For years I was told this story about my sister's aunt-in-law. She was a special pioneer and was rooming with a "worldly" woman. She started having demon attacks at night, when she was in bed. During the attacks, she couldn't breathe and felt like someone was choking her. She soon discovered (ta da!) that her roommate was involved in satanism and she threw the roommate out, but the attacks continued. After searching the house, she found hidden away in a closet a picture of the roommate. When she took it outside to burn it, the picture burned down to the woman's face and then wouldn't burn any more. After much praying and many doses of lighter fluid, the face finally burned and the demon attacks stopped.

Sound familiar? I've heard many similar stories. Well, a few years ago I met up with this woman's daughter and I told her about this story. She laughed and said that nothing like that ever happened to her mother.

Another one that happened in our congregation about 20 years ago was that one family was attending the district assembly in Texas (we lived in Colorado) and a friend of theirs reported that the mother of this family had personally witnessed Glen Campbell getting baptized. The congregation waited in anticipation for herto get home so they could hear all about it and see if she had pictures. When the family got home, the woman didn't know what people were talking about and where the story came from. :-)

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Any interest in a meeting in the Northeast?

by ChuckD in

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would anyone be up for some sort of cookout / barbeque sort of thing somewhere in the northeast in the next few weeks, perhaps around labor day?

being in providence, just about anywhere from ncy to boston would work for me.

we could drink beer, make smores, and tell stories.

jukief

Oh no, Chuck! It's not going to be a lobsterfest, is it? Now that we left NY; you wouldn't do that do us, would you? :-) Wish we were still there. I bet you can get the old gang together.

Julie

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Am I The Only One................................?

by Big Jim in

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am i the only one that catches myself either whistling or humming kingdom songs?.

usually i catch myself before i go to far as not to embarase myself.. my wife who is still very active gets a pretty good charge when she catches me at it.. you would think after being away for almost six years that would not happen.. just wondering if it happens to any of you?

jukief

I've been out since 1984, and I occasionally start to hum a JW song. But it's usually a really old one--like from the pre-1969 green song book. Those were my favorites. I have a copy of that songbook and still like to play them on the piano once in a while. I have fond memories of my early JW days (back in the 50s and 60s). It wasn't until the 70s and 80s that I got disgusted with the organization. I'm not nearly so fond of the songs from that era. :-)

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A Question thats troubling me........

by aud8 in

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"this good news will be preached for a witness to all the inhabited nations and then the end will come" nobody else is preaching any good news as far as i can see?

what do you think?

jukief

If the good news is "Convert to my religion or god will kill you," then, yes, the dubs are preaching the good news.

Lots of other religions have ministries. Have you ever talked to 7th Day Adventists? They have an impressive preaching program and publish a lot more literature than the dubs do. And they're just one example.

I agree with others comments that going door to door and trying to place magazines isn't preaching. Neither is sitting in the car gossiping while others in the car group makes not-at-homes that still aren't home. Preaching work? Bah!

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God?!? hahaha. that so funny.

by d0rkyd00d in

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here is a little post for all you people who believe in god, or at least the god that the bible presents to us.

first off, why would an all powerful being thrive on his creation's worship?

that is a little selfish if you ask me, and a little childish.

jukief

Anyone who believes in god should read Mark Twain's "Letters from Earth."

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Blood and RANK dishonesty!

by Marvin Shilmer in

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the thread started by maximus named gb admits it has no answers, blood ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=9056&site=3 ) is chock full of good information and is what this thread stems from.

if you have not already read maximus thread, you should.

i felt like adding my two cents about one aspect of that discussion.

jukief

You're quite right, voltaire, that there is a measure of community responsibility. I know for a fact that the Society has received a number of letters questioning their claim about Richard Lewontin's remarks. They have completely failed to acknowledge that anything is wrong, much less to correct their errors. Thus they have compounded the initial misrepresentation. Again, this is standard procedure for JW leadership -- they simply do not admit error to anyone, unless they're forced into it.

AlanF

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To Dunsscot from AlanF

by jukief in

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i thought i could finish a response to your last reply to me in the "freedom of thought" thread, before i leave on vacation.

no such luck; i'm leaving for more than a week in just a little while.

i'll post a complete response after i get back, probably in about two weeks.. alanf

jukief

I thought I could finish a response to your last reply to me in the "Freedom of Thought" thread, before I leave on vacation. No such luck; I'm leaving for more than a week in just a little while. I'll post a complete response after I get back, probably in about two weeks.

AlanF