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  Average age of apostates survey.

  by sleepy in

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  i thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.

  1.age you left the watchtower.

  (or age you found out it was wrong).

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  jukief

  Left at age 30.
  Baptized at age 14.
  Raised in it.
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  FULL ADMISSION

  by Amazing in

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  i have my nicotined stained fingers on something that may fascinate you.

  i've had it a while, and now must come forth to make full admission:.

  this is a teaser introduction to someting that will shock some, and not surprise others, but many nevertheless may not know where this came from:.

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  jukief

  Amazing, have you read "Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat Idiot" by Al Franken? So funny.
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  Amazing's Triumph - Mixed Feelings

  by Perry in

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  amazing wrote:.

  "i was able to get my wife and children out, and this led to my son-in-law and a close friend leaving at the same time.

  so, i am among the more fortunate in that my immediate family, and non-jw friends and relatives were all there with me as i exited.

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  jukief

  I'm getting ready to leave the office and only had time to skim this thread, so forgive me if someone else already mentioned this.

  As far dubs looking down on younger people who become "annointed," aren't one or two of the most recent GB members younger men who became "annointed" long after the 1930s-era cut off?

  Julie
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  FOUL TRICKERY by the GREAT WHORE.

  by Focus in

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  ***g93 3/22 5. a fable from india tells of six blind men from indostan who went to see an elephant.

  the first one touched its side and said: 'bless me!

  but the elephant is very like a wall!

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  jukief

  One wonders, Focus, why the JW-defenders have no reply.

  Easy: Jehovah's Witnesses are a religion with form but no substance.

  AlanF
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  .....married with children

  by sadiejive in

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  just a few quick questions.... how did you who got out of "the truth" deal with having a spouse who is still involved?

  what did you do about situations involving your children (such as holidays, birthdays, blood issue, religious upbringing, sports-ymca/karate)?.

  since i am the "wife" i feel like i am in a doubly awkward position due to the "submission" issue.

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  jukief

  I left my JW husband at the same time I quit the dubs. Both were bad situations. I hope your marriage isn't in the state mine was.

  My current husband tried to leave when he had a zealous JW wife (his first wife). He tried to stick it out in the marriage for quite a few years, but she made it evident that she didn't want to be his wife if he didn't plan to be a JW. Why put all that effort into someone who's going to die soon? They ended up divorcing.

  I know people who have been successful in leaving the religion and maintaining a good marriage with a believing spouse, but I think it's a difficult thing to do. Since he believes he has the headship, your husband is going to try to control things like holidays, the blood issue, etc. Even if you don't want to display submission, it's difficult to buck a man who's intent on getting his own way. I hope you'll be able to reason with him and that he loves you enough to listen. You'll probably have to make compromises when it comes to raising the children, though.

  I wish you luck. What you're going through certainly isn't easy.

  Julie
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  Going out with a bang

  by LittleToe in

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  after much deliberation, i decided to go "out" at the end of a public talk.

  it didn't go down too well, but at least i was able to give some of my reasons for leaving.. i've put some of the details on my homepage.

  i'll update it more when i get the time and the strength.

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  jukief

  Do any of you know Doctor Bob? He had a beard for quite a while when he was an elder. The elders in his congregation couldn't have cared less, but the circuit overseer finally made a fuss about it. It's interesting that the other elders went to bat for him against the CO.
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  What or who is the Faithful & Discreet Slave?

  by SexyTeen in

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  i know that most of you do not believe that the annointed remnant among jehovah's witnesses is the faithful & discreet slave.. so who is?

  jesus did say that this slave (individual or class?

  ) would be feeding his sheep, so who is doing the job?

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  Who cares?
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  Who was to blame for the blunder of 1975?

  by trykkleif in

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  harmageddon was supposed to occur in the fall of 1975, but nothing happened.

  who should have taken the blame?

  the gb?

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  I attended a special assembly held in Denver when Freddie graced us with his presence. He said from the platform that he expected the end in 1975. About 10,000 other people who were present also heard him say it.
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  My wife's anxiety, guilt

  by ashitaka in

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  my wife has been depressed each time we see our jw friends.

  she doesn't want to see them anymore, because it reminds her of what she left behind, and it makes her feel bad.. i've offered to go back to meetings for a while to help her break away.

  she never wants to go back, but her guilt and anger make her so uncomfortable around active jw's.....it's really bothering her.. any good books out there on breaking away from controlling organizations, especially concentrating on keeping the friendships but not the allegiance to the organization in question?

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  Ashi,

  About nine years ago, I went to the UU church one Sunday morning because a friend wanted to try out. Although I haven't been heavily involved (only because I'm lazy), I found that the UUs offer a lot of what JWs miss about being a Witness. If you and your wife are open to giving it a try, I suggest you look up your local UU church and drop by sometime. The UUs have a great feeling of comradery and common goals; they're very involved in community service, which would be a good thing for your wife, I think. Even though UUs have remarkedly different belief systems, they have one thing in common: They are searching for some kind of spirituality in their lives--whether it be through christianity or some other means--and they try to express that spirituality in their dealings with their fellow man. I should warn you, though, that UUs are liberal in their politics. That's one of the things I love about them, but if you tend to be conservative in your views, it might not be the right match for you.

  I think volunteer work is a great way to make up for some of the feelings we had as JWs. Doing something for people less fortunate has a very healing effect. My mom has taken up volunteer work, and it's really helped with her depression since she lost her faith. It gives her something else to focus on and lets her interact with people.

  Julie
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  What is Jehovah's Will Today?

  by SexyTeen in

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  i have a quick question: what is jehovah's will today and who is doing it?

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  jukief

  There is no Jehovah, so he has no will. No one can carry out what doesn't exist.