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  My problem....

  by LDH in

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  ok guys i have a problem and i can use your input.. i've been trying to drop little hints about the 'troof' for a year and a half now.. unfortunately i think i have a late-in-life case of adhd because i can't stay focused on one topic.

  i would like to discuss one topic rationally with my father (mother doesn't talk to me) but somehow i end up getting all emotional and wanting to shout "are you f-ing blind?

  that religion is a scam and you have wasted 35 years of your life!".

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  Julie

  Hi LDH--

  I sympathize with your situation as I tend to be a bit, er, emotional, on topics I feel passionately about. I have some excellent advice for you that has worked for me repeatedly and it is very brief.

  Sedatives.

  Regards,
  Julie
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  Diary of an Armageddon Survivor

  by GinnyTosken in

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  i was sorting through my files today and found this piece from 1996 and thought i'd share.. ginny.

  diary of an armageddon survivor.

  ed thorn, our presiding overseer, told us that those who were missing should have spent more time in field service.. day 2. brother thorn called a special meeting this morning.

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  Julie

  Hi Ginny,

  I do recall someone posting this a few years back on h20 (or a link to, not sure). Anyway through reading much of it all I could do was recall how excited JWs get at the thought of the Big A. Remember when Princess infiltrated that witness site and they were blathering on about "no worldlies or apostates--how wonderful!!"? Pretty sick stuff.

  To tell you the truth though, I am hard pressed to imagine any other scenario if the the world were left to the Borg.

  Thanks for bringing up this old gem, let us hope some lurkers read it and digest this food for thought.

  Regards,
  Julie
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  Medieval mindset in religion

  by Julie in

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  here's an interesting article telling us all about how illness is punishment for sin, well sort of...... what century is this again????.

  julie.

  thursday february 07 2002 .

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  Julie

  Here's an interesting article telling us all about how illness is punishment for sin, well sort of.....

  What century is this again????

  Julie

  THURSDAY FEBRUARY 07 2002
  
  Illness caused by sin says Vatican official
  
  FROM RICHARD OWEN IN ROME
  
  A SENIOR Vatican official has asserted that illness is the result of sin and that people have a natural desire to be “healthy and good-looking”.
  Presenting the Pope’s message for Lent, Archbishop Paul Cordes, the German head of the Vatican’s agency for humanitarian aid, maintained that there was scriptural authority for the idea that those who contract illnesses do so because they have sinned.

  Father Georges Cottier, the Pope’s chief theologian, immediately stepped in to reassure those who were ill that they were not in fact “paying for their sins”.

  The Pope, in his message, had urged genetic scientists and other health experts not to succumb to the temptation of “tampering with the Tree of Life” under the illusion that advances in biotechnology had made man his own creator.

  Monsignor Cordes, elaborating on the Pope’s remarks, went further and said that the root of much modern illness lay in sinful or immoral behaviour.

  “Jesus heals sickness and banishes sin,” he said. “He therefore teaches us that there is a link between sin and illness. This does not happen in every individual case, but it is a fundamental law. The history of salvation shows us that illness is a consequence of sin.”

  The theory was enshrined in Roman Catholic doctrine, he said. “Man’s desire to be healthy, good-looking and strong is justified because it anticipates our future salvation. One cannot deny that death, of which illness is an anticipation, has always been seen as a consequence of sin.”

  He quoted the Gospel of St John, which describes Jesus curing a crippled man he found lying on a pallet by the pool of Bethesda in Jerusalem. Jesus told the man, who had been crippled for 38 years: “Take up your bed and walk”. Finding him later in the temple, Jesus ordered the cured man to “go and sin no more, or something worse may happen to you”.

  Father Cottier said that the original sin committed by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden had “introduced sin and suffering into the human condition”. This was not the same as saying the sick were guilty and it was unacceptable to use passages from the Gospel in which Jesus “frees people from sin” to suggest otherwise.

  Commenting on the altercation, La Repubblica said that the idea that those who were vigorous and good-looking were blessed while the ugly and the sick were damned was an ancient one that predated Christianity. La Stampa said that if illness really was the result of sin and crime, then “the great dictators and criminals of the world would all have been struck down”.

  Father Bruno Moriconi, a leading theologian, said that illness was neither a blessing nor a curse, but simply a result of the malfunctioning of the human organism. “There is no point in looking to the Bible for an explanation.”
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  Real Economic Security? Some Politics

  by Valentine in

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  for those interested,a new press release by now ,beyond enron,the bigger picture.

  enjoy.

  tina.

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  Julie

  Excellent post Seeker! Just another reminder why you are at the top of my Smart-friends list.

  Warmest regards,
  Julie
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  Real Economic Security? Some Politics

  by Valentine in

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  for those interested,a new press release by now ,beyond enron,the bigger picture.

  enjoy.

  tina.

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  Execellent article Tina. We are in an election year, let us hope that apathy soon is overcome by some sort of compassion by the voters this time through.

  Large corporations are looking to better the bottom line right now and increase stock value, they aren't looking for money so they can cure society's financial ills. I hope people will soon start realizing these large companys are not philathropists. Unfortunately they have so much money available to spend getting many legislators to put a lot of effort into trying to convince the public otherwise. It seems, so far, to be relatively effective.

  Here's hoping for some positive change this year,
  Julie
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  What Are The 3 Worst Things in Your Life

  by teenyuck in

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  since we are listing the best 3 things in life, i thought it would be interesting to list 3 things that you did and regret or things that are/were the worst in your life.

  1. lack of friends growing up a jw; there just were not any.

  no one liked jw's.

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  Without question the loss of my beloved Dad was far and away the most devastating thing in my life, I expect it will always be.

  Julie
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  I AM SICK OF HEARING ENRON SOB STORIES

  by teenyuck in

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  the nbc news just showed the latest update on enron.

  ken lay will show up...yada yada yada.

  the next clip dealt with a man and wife...he worked at enron.

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  I am wondering though if there are truly as many parallels between the two and I ask out of admitted ignorance? Was Lucent as misleading as Enron had been? Did Lucent hide the sort of debt that Enron did? Did Lucent have the long-term, high powered connections that Enron did? What's the scoop here?

  Besides the reactions/circumstances of the employees (everybody got screwed except the biggest players) what are the parallels of the demise of both of these companies?

  Curious to know the full story--
  Julie
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  Emily is Sick and in the hospital.

  by Undecided in

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  bad news again.

  my little grand daughter has the pneumonia and other viral infections and is very ill and in the hospital.

  this really hurts.

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  Julie

  My deepest sympathies for the anxiety you must be feeling. It is true what many here say, kids are so remarkable when it comes to healing. It is us adults that take longer to get over *their* trauma.

  Sorry to hear of your uncle's condition.

  Sending warm wishes of comfort to you--please keep us posted--
  Julie
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  What are the three best things you did in life?

  by Skeptic in

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  in another thread, i stated the three best things i ever did with my life, but i thought the topic would make a good thread.. what are the three best things you did in your life?.

  mine are:.

  third best: divorcing my first wife.

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  Julie

  Hi Richard,

  I smile whenever I see mention of that one you listed as Very Best.

  First, my kids and how dedicated I have been to their upbringing.

  My second was to wake up to the world around me and start lighting candles where-ever I could instead of cursing darkness or lack of resources to "do it all".

  My third has happened too many times to number but must be in this top three: Heed my "gut instinct" or "inner voice".

  This was a hard question to answer BTW. Next time could you make it fluffier like pizza toppings or something???

  Hugs to you and Wind-rider--
  Julie
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  My Committment to JWD

  by Amazing in

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  i debated the wisdom of making this post.

  i have made every effort to make it as neutral as possible to avoid personally offending anyone.

  i may be losing my marbles here, but i feel that this needs to be said.

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  Julie

  You know Tina, I have been meaning to talk to you. You are so ambiguous, I feel you lack the confidence to *really* say how you feel. Perhaps you should work on that shyness problem you have...

  
  Julie