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what do you believe.i am a christian and i am not going to have a go at you and hope that i dont get banned from this forum.but you see i have questions.. 1.
1915 and 1975 you proclaimed the end of the world was comeing.in 1915 you lost 3 quarters of your following.explain if this is true.. 2. you do not allow blood transfusions i understand.this is written in the watchtower magazine i suppose.where in the bible does it say this.. 3. if someone leaves you.why do you try to break all contact with this person.i have known families splitting up over there beliefs.. 4. who makes translations of your bibles.. i am not claiming you are a cult.but i would like to clear up these questions please
In ancient Israel, the religious leaders were allowed to stone people to death if they "broke the law." JWs would LIKE to stone people, but they can't because the Satanic Government would hang them if they did, so they treat people as bad as they possibly can so that those people WISH they wre dead. Sometimes those people do go out and kill themselves, and the JWs do a happy dance in their naughty bits when they do.
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albert einstein goes to a party and he asked everyone he met their respective iq.
to those who had above 140 he said: "we?ll talk about the great unification theory and the mysteries of the universe... we have much to discuss about!!!
to those over 120 he said: "we?ll talk about international relations, anti semitism and the future of the world... we have much to discuss about!!!
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firt of all, a bit of background.
i'm 26 years old, am a math major/english minor senior on a full scholarhip in college, was raised as one of jehovah's witnesses, babtized when i was 18, left at ~ 22/23, am now agnostic/deist/confused.
i was raised on a farm in a witness family.
My other point would be that as someone who has been on both sides of the fence, as a shunner & a shunnee, I am within my rights to be angry that friends of mine, who I know don't even believe in it 100%, will shun me, their former good friend, just to keep themselves out of trouble ...
I was raised as a Witness, I never chose of my own adult free will to follow JWs. Yes, I was baptized at 14 & believed in it until 24, but what do you expect when every day I was preached to at the cong & at home, and not allowed to have other friends???
And request away - I am no longer a subservient sister ...
firt of all, a bit of background.
i'm 26 years old, am a math major/english minor senior on a full scholarhip in college, was raised as one of jehovah's witnesses, babtized when i was 18, left at ~ 22/23, am now agnostic/deist/confused.
i was raised on a farm in a witness family.
JD, I did read your posts - forgive me if I missed something, they were pretty long!
You said that you have never been disfellowshipped, & that when your mum died everyone rallied round. Doesn't much sound like shunning to me ...
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ok, so i allways thought that dating someone who used to be a witless would be cool , since you would both kinda know what the other had been through in his/her life.
so my question is: how many of you date/have dated ex-witnesses, why or why not and does the relationship benifit from it...and just your ideas about it in general.. .
Yes, I agree with Insomniac & CountryGirl. My non-x-dub hubby has been great because he just thinks everything in life is 'normal', doesn't have any hang-ups, and had already had sex before he met me (omigod)!!
(not to get too personal ...)
I like Carmel's definition!
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ok, so i allways thought that dating someone who used to be a witless would be cool , since you would both kinda know what the other had been through in his/her life.
so my question is: how many of you date/have dated ex-witnesses, why or why not and does the relationship benifit from it...and just your ideas about it in general.. .
Go Kate!
firt of all, a bit of background.
i'm 26 years old, am a math major/english minor senior on a full scholarhip in college, was raised as one of jehovah's witnesses, babtized when i was 18, left at ~ 22/23, am now agnostic/deist/confused.
i was raised on a farm in a witness family.
EvilForce, thanks for sharing your story - it was very moving & you have it all spot on.
JohnDoe, this board is pretty much the only place that most of us can really talk about our complicated feelings about the JWs. Some things do suck. You have never been shunned by family members or people you considered close friends, and I find it a little patronising for you to say 'move on'. That is what this site is all about - sharing our stories, purging the bad stuff, so that we can move on. A lot of us are very happy in our everyday lives, but still have sadnesses about various aspects of the 'troof'. So any thread telling everyone to 'lighten up' misses the point of the whole board, I think. As EvilForce said, one day you may appreciate the unique crowd we have here, who have been through many similiar experiences. If you don't need this site, don't use it! It's simple! But welcome anyway!!
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can anyone direct me or provide the information of how many jw's actually were sent to and died in the nazi concentration camps.
i believe that the jw's claimed so many numbers, but the actual figures were lower.
That's pretty funny, Don & Garybuss - 'immortality from a bomb shelter'
I read a great autobiography by Margarete Buber, who was imprisoned under Stalin & Hitler, & she says the Witnesses were just as annoying in Germany as they were in Russia! They refused (very vocally) to look after the angora rabbits cos the fur was being used for something or other. HELLO - you are in a CONCENTRATION CAMP!!
this information is taken from thesis by peter strawhan, 1984, re jws in australia in ww2.
rees was head of jws in australia, who were banned 1941-43.
jws contributed 10,000 to war bonds from cash accumulated during ban, reported to knorr july 1943. rees: ?of course the fact that we took out the bonds has not been publicized, but we have seen to it that the government officials such as security, army, manpower, etc, know of it.
That's right, Little Bo Peep. The commercial interests & the war bonds are entirely separate matters. The commercial interests including printeries, which helped the dubs keep publishing throughout the ban, & also canteens etc. The Witnesses owned or controlled 4 radio stations, which were implicated in 'suspicious' broadcasts & was the ostensible reason for the banning. The government gave their licences away & by the end of the ban the dubs decided to relinquish radio broadcasting in Australia, as well as other commercial interests. If anyone is interested, I am about to finish writing an honours thesis on the war time ban of Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia, which looks at all these issues, & is a very interesting read, if I say so myself! This is the most scandalous thing I came up with, but there are lots of minor idiotic things, too! I'm not sure whether I will be allowed to put the thesis up on web (I guess not) but I'm planning to publish an article at some stage, & if so I will post that on here! Thanks for being interested! Jayne
