Posts by ABibleStudent

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Elder and CO just dropped by....

by El_Guapo in

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i haven't been to a meeting in over a year, and as you know as soon as you stop attending meetings/fieldservice the "conditional" love becomes more apperant.

the coordinating elder starts off by saying how much he loves and misses me, etc.

i ask him, when was the last time you called or texted me?

ABibleStudent

Priceless El_Guapo!! And, nothing derogatory about the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Reading exJW then JW facebook sites can make you go crazy!

by ILoveTTATT in

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it's absolutely amazing what exactly the same event can do to the jw community and the exjw community.. the difference is that the jw community does not think and has the expected response... we think and, of course, have the exact opposite response as the jw's.. take for example the march km with the "will this be the last?

here are some comments from a jw site:.

wow it comes like that in the km?

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, Instead of going crazy reading JW's posts on FB, go out and have some fun. Be happy that you will no longer be victimized by the WTBTS's BITE control techniques.

Have you read Mt 15:13-15? Some people might interpret it as Jesus is very uncarring. I interpret it as Jesus was being realistic. The Pharisees and Sadducees used BITE control techniques to victimize Jews, and Jesus knew that there was little that he could do to overcome that thought control in the leaders and followers. Sometimes you just gotta to let go and live your life to its fullest.

Help those who you can with your language skills by translating JWfacts' webpages to Spanish, so that you feel less crazy.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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better to stay in or get out

by Crazyguy in

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i put in a da letter a couple of weeks ago but the elders have not opened the letter and wish to meet with me first.

i've seen the stress this has caused me and my family as well as the alienation of me from the family spiritually.

so the question is can i do more to get my kids out of this cult by staying a member going to meetings some times and planting seeds or get out and try to then get the kids out over time?

ABibleStudent

Hi Crazyguy, DO NOT play by the WTBTS's rules, because the game is rigged!!!

Find some non-JWs who you can talk about your feelings with (or vent on JWN) while you fade. Continue to plant seeds of doubt and help your JW family members to critically think for themselves. Go out and meet more non-JWs who you, your wife, and kids share common interests. Go out and have fun with your family. If you still believe in God, help your family to see how the Pharisees and Sadducees used BITE control techniques to victimize JWs and how Jesus Christ felt about them - DO NOT draw parallels to the WTBTS.

The WTBTS is the WTBTS's worst enemy, so give your family time to see the hipocrisy of the WTBTS.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Advice on children

by Apostating in

my ex-wife got married in december last year.

so our visting arrangement with my children has changed.

there was a misunderstanding in our visiting arrangment, we agreed on that they would spend the weekends (once in two weeks) with me they would stay until sunday.

ABibleStudent

Hi Apostating, Always do something fun with your kids on the weekends that you have them so they will not want to go to meetings and help your children to critically think for themselves. If your ex-wife wants to take them to the meetings, tell your ex-wife to go to a congregation with meeting times at 4:00 PM or after.

If you want to be mean to your ex-wife, give your kids sugary treats right before they leave so that they have plenty of energy for the meetings. LOL

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

18

Avoid or call them back?

by Angus Beef in

daughter missed a call from an elder tonight...we've missed meetings for about a month now.

she is dating a worldly guy and i'm sure someone has seen them together.

makes us nervous and with us being fairly new to the fading facet... should she call or avoid.

ABibleStudent

Hi Angus Beef, Why do you want to play by the WTBTS's rules? Avoid meeting with elders. Block phone calls from elders. Do not answer elder's questions.

If the elders do contact your daughter by dropping by unexpectedly, thank them for their convern, ask them to call before stopping by unannounced, and to tell all the elders that you will contact them if you need any help.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Should I meet with the elders?

by winnie12 in

so i posted my story somewhere on this board but long story short i have been expressing my doubts to my mom who is a jw.

i have been fading since december 2013 and went to a sunday meeting for the first time maybe two weeks ago.

i went only because i wanted to use the library that my hall has which had books published by the society from the early 1900's.

ABibleStudent

Hi winnie12, When in doubt it is better to ask questions than to provide answers. Let the elders do all the work, but phrase your questions with what did Jesus Christ say or do. Be prepared to have some rebuttel questions, because JWs like to take scriptures out of context or add their own WTBTS thought-stopping platitude when they start to feel cognitive dissonnance.

If you need help in disguising questions for JWs, read exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed by Billy the Ex-Bethelite.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

by ILoveTTATT in

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so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

i am curious about your ideas about:.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, I'm glad that you are more at peace. I'm sorry that your father has to deal with your mom's cult persona in all its gory (not to be confused with glory).

Hopefully, you and your dad can still get together and have fun together.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

by ILoveTTATT in

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friends

so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

i am curious about your ideas about:.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, Are you feeling less stressed yet? Did you talk with a counselor?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ran into JW's manning a table/booth at the beach.

by PaintedToeNail in

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came across 2 of these 'booths' in 2 days.

one at the int'l airport we landed at (hubby asked directions from them, they were knowledgable about the airport and very nice) and the other at a pier on the beach...hubby had to race over and say hi to them and i was standing there.

the 'brother' was an arrogant boob.

ABibleStudent

Priceless rebuttal PaintedToeNail . I wonder if he can put 2 and 2 together to see how much time he wasted at Bethel and now standing in a suit at the beach.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

by Faithful Witness in

recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, DITTO what other posters wrote about just write that you love her or let her go for a few months. IMHO an email with lots of pictures of you and your family having fun and writing wishing you were there would probably have more impact on her. Please remember that she is probably being heavily influenced by her husband.

If your mother still has doubts, help her more than your sister to critically think for herself because it might have a more significant impact.

If you still want to confront your sister, I would recommend writing I love you, she seems more judgemental than when you were growing up, and ask how would she feel if you would stop talking with her for giving you presents just because it is a sunny day. Where in the Bible did Jesus Christ say to shun or not associate with people just because they were tax collectors or Samaritans?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert