yesterday, i had a chance meeting with an acquaintance from the kh we used to attend.. after being away from the meetings for so long, and really starting to feel like i've almost entirely shed their false teachings, i have somehow lost sight of the fact that there are actually still people who really believe it.
i read the magazines now, and find it virtually impossible to comprehend how anyone can actually swallow those ideas.
it seems so warped and twisted to me now.. i guess the best way i can describe this encounter, was being "cornered" in public.
P.S. - Faithful Witness, A couple more thought-stopping platitudes that JWs use:
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
yesterday, i had a chance meeting with an acquaintance from the kh we used to attend.. after being away from the meetings for so long, and really starting to feel like i've almost entirely shed their false teachings, i have somehow lost sight of the fact that there are actually still people who really believe it.
i read the magazines now, and find it virtually impossible to comprehend how anyone can actually swallow those ideas.
it seems so warped and twisted to me now.. i guess the best way i can describe this encounter, was being "cornered" in public.
Faithful Witness - Robert: What are the 5 most often used WTBS platitudes, and how do I overcome them?
Hi Faithful Witness, I was never a JW, so many ex-JW members would be able to recall thought-stopping platitudes better than I.
I consider the following thought-stopping platitudes that JWs use:
Why not start a new thread asking for help to identify, rank, and overcome thought-stopping platitudes? I will comment when you do.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i happen to work with my father, and today we got into another debate about the origin of life.
during the debate, while rebutting a lot of creationist canards, he said that mutations are always harmful to an organism.. .
after he left i sent him a quick email with a link to talk origins on the subject of mutations.
Pyramid God - During the debate, while rebutting a lot of creationist canards, he said that mutations are always harmful to an organism.
Hi Pyramid God, Has your father read about Darwin and his theory that was based on the process of natural selection? For the process of natural selection to occur, mutations must occur and are beneficial for the existance of a species. How are mutations bad then for the continued existance of a species?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
yesterday, i had a chance meeting with an acquaintance from the kh we used to attend.. after being away from the meetings for so long, and really starting to feel like i've almost entirely shed their false teachings, i have somehow lost sight of the fact that there are actually still people who really believe it.
i read the magazines now, and find it virtually impossible to comprehend how anyone can actually swallow those ideas.
it seems so warped and twisted to me now.. i guess the best way i can describe this encounter, was being "cornered" in public.
Hi Faithful Witness, If you do decide to invite the elder's wife in for tea and cookies, how prepared are you to turn off a JW's cult persona?
Are you prepared to do the following:
Best of wishes to learn how to more effectively reverse-witness to JWs.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
yesterday, i had a chance meeting with an acquaintance from the kh we used to attend.. after being away from the meetings for so long, and really starting to feel like i've almost entirely shed their false teachings, i have somehow lost sight of the fact that there are actually still people who really believe it.
i read the magazines now, and find it virtually impossible to comprehend how anyone can actually swallow those ideas.
it seems so warped and twisted to me now.. i guess the best way i can describe this encounter, was being "cornered" in public.
Faithful Witness - She was very good at her street witnessing. It will be interesting to see if she shows up on my doorstep. I'm not sure I want to invite this into my house again.
Hi Faithful Witness, When deciding whether to invite the elder's wife into your house, you can either view this as an opportunity to hone your reverse witnessing skills to help your JW family, or as a pain in the a$$ experience. It is your choice.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
just thought i would let you know there appears to still be no change when it comes to assisting the police here in the uk.
i am in the process of pressing charges against my abuser who was and is again a jw.
during my interviews with the police i did not mention jws as it was not relevant to the case, however during one if his interviews he stated that he had been 'punished' by the jws by being disfellowshipped, and now he was a jw again he had 'paid his dues'!.
I'm sorry that you were abused happy@last. I hope that the legal system is successful with prosecuting your abuser, so that other people are not abused by him. Abusers usually are incapable of controlling themselves and will abuser more than one person.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/flash.aspx/288677#.ux9165ao7l9.
court rejects missionary lawsuit against netanya schools for voiding leasethe tel aviv magistrates court has rejected a claim by a missionary group, saying that the school they had been renting space in unlawfully voided their contract , and asking the court to instruct the school to pay nis 108,000 in compensation and mental anguish, as well as legal expenses.. it began when a missionary group, via a non-profit organization called "mitzpe l'yisrael", rented space at the raziel school in netanya to conduct daily afternoon activities.
shortly after signing the rental agreement , the school authorities discovered that the group was, in reality, the notorious missionary sect of "jehovah's witnesses".
Thanks Barbara!
Is this another example of "Theocratic Warfare Strategy"?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
Hi Jon Preston, DITTO what jgnat wrote. Didn't your wife already admonish you for not being honest with her sooner.
Tell her you love her very much and respect her beliefs. Ask her if she really wants to leave the WTBTS and to do more independent research about what she believes, such as using internet resources. If she asks for your advice show, her one of the following videos by Steve Hassen:
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
my wife and i recently took the decision to fade out progressively and we are now in the stage where we no longer assist to our meetings.
in this process, we have told the truth to our respective parents but have not forced ourselves upon them; meaning that: we will talk about it when you want to.
as a result, my mother in-law already had some conversations with my wife on why we no longer went, but never brought up the subject with me, at least, up until yesterday.. she was telling us that a good deal of people miss us at the meeting and i answered that i missed them also.
Excellant logic ecan6!! I hope that it makes your MIL critically think for herself.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
maybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.
well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.
the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.
Hi cookiemaster, Can you convince your parents to conduct a home Bible Study? Your objective would be to help your parents to identify how the Pharisees and Sadducees used BITE control techniques to victimize Jews and how Jesus Christ felt about it. DO NOT draw parrallels to the WTBTS. Let your parents critically think for themselves and make their own conclustions. Help and encourage your parents to use internet searches to do independent research of the WTBTS. According to a Watchtower in 1989, I believe, the truth is still the truth even if Satan says it.
If you do not know how to identify BITE control techniques, please visit Steve Hassan's website www.freedomofmind.com and watch his FREE videos on his website. I recommend watching the following videos:
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
