Xan...........yes I am a good person. You are over thinking.
Have another glass of wine or go for a walk. "-)
clarity
something happened this week to make me think about this again.. it feels like all bets are off and i really don't know what a good person is anymore.. when i left the jws i was so sure i knew what it meant to be a good person.. this has been revised many times since.. i tend to favour the utilitarian approach, the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people.. sometimes you have to stick your neck out and say this is not good for me no matter what others may feel they need from me.. no idea where i'm going with this maybe this is a breakthrough in my life or maybe that glass of wine was stronger than i thought!.
any thoughts?.
Xan...........yes I am a good person. You are over thinking.
Have another glass of wine or go for a walk. "-)
clarity
okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
Hi ...welcome to jwn!
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I was captive to this society for 50yrs, it has taken me 4yrs to
get my sanity back again. Puleeze do not get involved with this
person.
You are 8 yrs older...lol ....all jw women are insecure, and would
give their right arm to have a MAN to take care of them! They will
promise anything & everything to (ohpleasegodletithappenplseplse!!!)
have you be da man!
Do not do this to your children ...they deserve more!
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"I have a hope that she will wake up from this mind control and I believe I do have reason to think that. I got her to admit that they at least used to be false prophets, " lol................
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This thread has so much great advice in it .... it should be
a classic!
clarity
it has been over a year since i offically stopped caring about and going to jw meetings.
prioor to this time i had tons of responsibility that drained every once of time i had.
like any father i had family matters to attend to.
Omg ...I am so happy for you and your family!!!!
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Funny this made me cry a little ... "On my way home I stopped
along the road at my favorite pasture with the same cows
that are sometimes there."
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All the best to you!
clarity
Dear Ken ...cheer up sweety, we have good reasons to be sad
but don't let it get to you.
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We feel the 'let down' of the Watchtower's "this generation will not pass..."
Don't know about you, but damn it, I never planned on getting old!!
Armageddon is right around the corner!!!!! Oh YEAH!! Right!!
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Don't let the bu$$ers get to you Ken, don't waste the precious time
that we do have. Make sure you are getting some fresh air & excercise.
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Very sorry about your friend, ... that loss is hard to take.
clarity
well my ps3 is downstairs because i had no idea how good games looked on tvs that weren't older than you are and i've run into a problem.
my mum doesn't know that i have "bad" games like cod, gta 5, legend of zelda and final fantasy (yeah ik last two aren't that bad but loads of religious stuff and magic) and it's getting harder to keep it a secret.. i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas on how i should go about this.
should i just wait a while and slowly introduce the idea to my mum that i play these games or should i just come out and play them and act like it'a nothing?.
Oh shoot Duvan ...I saw the title "wanna play COD",
and thought you meant GOD ...shhhheeesh....
I don't speak the language ...sorry!
clarity
i've been out around 20 years (da'd), but recently i've really started to struggle with certain aspects of relating to family members who are still in, as well as my own thoughts and feelings about my upbringing and my personal views about god/life the universe.
i have an older sibling and my mum who are still in.
we are a small family and my dear grandmother, who was not in, passed away around a year ago.
Welcome Really? ... Nice to have you here.
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Time has a way of letting us see the obvious ...
25 yrs ago, as I chatted with a 'brother', asking about his
children, ..his daughter was praised, but the son had
left the organization and he said , "we don't talk about him"
Even then, I could feel that weird numb blocking-out of reality,
and just shrugged & stopped my thoughts!
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Hopefully, your Mother will 'get it' soon.
Maybe make a small quiet comment ...and then just stretch it
out a bit more ...just to get her thinking on it.
all the best
clarity
....
i'm not i like the "happy clappy" bits and pieces in church (c of e).
it's just not me.
the local school choir came in today and did 2 songs and one was a rap song about easter.... that's so not me.. i like serious but not hellfire preaching.. any ideas where to next?
Quelly.....attending church or other religious group
......is this just a habit?
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Ask yourself why you feel a need or want, to go into any
religious building. Is there void on Sunday morning?
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How about brunch with a few friends instead?
Museums, the library, day trips, join the softball team,
tour your nearest city, join a choir, go for a walk in a park,
so many other choices ....think "why a church?"
When you have the answer...let us know. :-)
clarity
thats how my grand mother responded when all of our family members came out of jw organization, either by disassociation or by disfellowshipping.. when we all started studying with jws, my grandmother too was there, but she stopped the study when the discussion over the dead happened.
she told the study conductor: i am convinced that there is only life, but no death.
because when my husband died of heart attack, i was not shaken by the incident.
Really? ....QuestioningEverything..... this elderly Lady has her
own ideas. They are what she is choosing to hang on to.
She graciously & kindly wished us well on 'our' journey.
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"We respect other's beliefs but we are done with organized religion."
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Do you? Really?
clarity
thanks to darth frosty (in another thread on noah) for drawing our attention to this series of clips on youtube called "messed up bible stories".
the youtube name is 'ebolaworld'.
if you havent yet watched them, they are so well presented and so chillingly accurate.
Thanks
i was told that jws baptize in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit.
i asked if it was done exactly as stated in the bible to be sure i was hearing the answer correctly.
the response i got was "yes!
Any witnesses that I have discussed this with, has no idea
what their vows were!
Since 1985 the vows include ..............
"into gods theocratic ORGANIZATION!" (from memory!)
Seems that jesus isn't highlited much at all!
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clarity