Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?

by Sea Breeze in

why did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.

24: 14 that jesus spoke about?

2 cor.

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Jehovah's Witnesses preach a counterfeit gospel, the content of which is intricately complex, involving personal names, unbiblical dates and imagined 20th century events. Consequently, Witnesses find it difficult to summarize their gospel without including these extra-biblical additions. The best way to be prepared to discuss the good news with Witnesses is to know:

A. the genuine/biblical gospel.

B. how to share the genuine gospel with anyone including Witnesses

C. how to answer the Watchtower's objections to justification by faith.

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A. The genuine/biblical gospel?

1. The genuine gospel: labeled

In the King James version, the word gospel appears 98 times. The scriptures identify the gospel in a number of ways. An exemplary scriptural reference follows every identification.

the gospel Mt.11:5

this gospel Mt. 26:13

the gospel of the kingdom Mt.9:35, Acts 20:24-25

this gospel of the kingdom Mt. 24:14

Christ's gospel II Cor. 2:12

the gospel of Christ Ro.15:29

the gospel of Jesus Christ Mk 1:1

the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ II Thes. 1:89

the gospel of God Ro. 15:16

the gospel of the grace of God Acts 20:24

my gospel II Tim. 2:8

our gospel I Thes 1:5

the gospel of peace Eph. 6:15

the everlasting gospel Rev. 14:6

the gospel of your salvation Eph. 1:13

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Two new Governing Body members

by slimboyfat in

jeddoly and rumph???.

who are they?

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MM writes:

We know WHY Jody Jedele was appointed as a jehovah witness governing god fraction…he is prominent in realty, and as watchtower is really just a real-estate conglomerate, religion in name only for its financial benefits and protections, Jody’s knowledge and skill set will be useful for their real-estate empire to grow. And watchtower is nothing, if not opportunistic, when it comes to exploiting the skills of their slaves for the corporation’s further enrichment.

https://youtu.be/TLaJbMDwGyY

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Two new Governing Body members

by slimboyfat in

jeddoly and rumph???.

who are they?

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M.M writes

Jody Jedele, one of the two new god fractions jehovah witnesses worship. There, for now, is no picture of the other new god fraction, Jacob Rumph. Rumph did, however, give the concluding prayer of this years annual meeting, though.

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Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

by slimboyfat in

the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

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Biblically speaking, there is only one hope for Christians. And that hope is heavenly. There is no distinction among Christians, ancient or modern.

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What makes a cult (in the pejorative sense)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

michael moore writes:.

a cult is an organization that enslaves minds and destroys families using cult mind control.

cult mind control involves orchestrated deception, social pressure, psychological abuse, and repetitive indoctrination (brainwashing) centering around an unchallengeable ideology enforced in a totalitarian way in a closed socially-separatist community setting.

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Ryan, former COBE writes

Capture the mind and you’ll capture the heart and wallets. And that is exactly what any corporation that wants to be around tomorrow needs to have today.

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The everlasting saga of The faithful and discreet slave class.

by MacHislopp in

at the 128th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, on october 6 th 2012 .

during this meeting “food at the proper time” was given and the most important, was given during a symposium of six talks by members of the governing body—brothers jackson, lösch, pierce, herd, lett, and splane— which analyzed and discussed the meaning of jesus’ words recorded at.

" (matthew 24: 45, 46) it must be conceded, then, that at the end ot the world, at the "time of the end", during the presence of the lord, during the harvest, he would have in the earth a servant who would be faithful and wise.

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Menacing Mistral writes

The governing body of jehovah witnesses wearing their watchtower tefillin, prayer boxes or phylacteries.

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Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

by slimboyfat in

say it ain’t so!

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in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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There is no such animal as a Christian who is not anointed, i.e., not born of and indwelt by the Spirit of God. John 3:3, Romans 8:9

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The everlasting saga of The faithful and discreet slave class.

by MacHislopp in

at the 128th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, on october 6 th 2012 .

during this meeting “food at the proper time” was given and the most important, was given during a symposium of six talks by members of the governing body—brothers jackson, lösch, pierce, herd, lett, and splane— which analyzed and discussed the meaning of jesus’ words recorded at.

" (matthew 24: 45, 46) it must be conceded, then, that at the end ot the world, at the "time of the end", during the presence of the lord, during the harvest, he would have in the earth a servant who would be faithful and wise.

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Jehovah's Witnesses are classified as a doomsday anti-Christ cult that take their direction from men.

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Ten reasons Jehovah’s Witnesses have the true religion (plus a bonus one)

by slimboyfat in

thinking back when i was a true believer these are probably the top ten reasons why i believed jws are the true religion.

1. they show love among themselves by not going to war.

not killing your fellow believers in any circumstances, including war, would seem to be a very basic requirement for true christianity.

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They are guilty of

a. writing themselves into the salvation formula

b. claiming they are Jehovah's unique channel of communication

c. asserting that no one who rejects their authority is a real Christian

d. determining that 99% of those martyred for the name of Christ prior to the 20th century were only professed Christians

e. denying all the benefits of justification to 8 million so called modern other sheep

f. mandating shunning of former Jehovah's Witnesses

Add to that:

They preach a non-salvific gospel and an unrelatable Jesus.

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The everlasting saga of The faithful and discreet slave class.

by MacHislopp in

at the 128th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, on october 6 th 2012 .

during this meeting “food at the proper time” was given and the most important, was given during a symposium of six talks by members of the governing body—brothers jackson, lösch, pierce, herd, lett, and splane— which analyzed and discussed the meaning of jesus’ words recorded at.

" (matthew 24: 45, 46) it must be conceded, then, that at the end ot the world, at the "time of the end", during the presence of the lord, during the harvest, he would have in the earth a servant who would be faithful and wise.

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Menacing Minstrel writes

Jws have been indoctrinated to believe that their 9 leaders in Warwick, NY are this alleged “slave”. Who indoctrinated them to believe this? Well, those 9 leaders in Warwick, NY of course. How better to control 8.5 million people and live as parasites off the financial donations of those 8.5 million than for them to appoint themselves into this role.