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Vanderhoven7
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Who Directs the Activitie$ and Doctrines of the Hovering Body?
by Sea Breeze injehovah’s witnesses boast that theirs is a “spirit-directed organization”.. see w88 3/1 pp.
10-17 (my life in jehovah’s spirit-directed organization).
they believe that their deceased founder, charles taze russell (who faced legal action by his wife for inappropriate behavior in his maids bedroom), is directing the modern-day work of jehovah’s witnesses.. after the founder, c t russell died, it was stated that he was still directing the work from heaven.. "though pastor russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the harvest work.
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JULY 15TH STUDY EDITION :"If ever that evil slave..." page 24
by raymond frantz inbox on page 24 of the july 15th titled :"if ever the evil slave....".
jesus has placed the weightiest of responsibilities on the faithful and discreet slave-namely,overseeing the domestics and giving out spiritual food atthe proper time.
jesus knew that those with greater responsibility have greater accountability.
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Vanderhoven7
The Faithful Slave has not been appointed yet.
The Watchtower falsely claims that the Slave was appointed in 1919.
Got the following online
"The facts of modern history show that in the year 1919 [Jesus] revived these much afflicted disciples and gathered them together in a united body. Then he appointed them as his “slave” class “over all his belongings,” that is, over all his royal interests at the earth." Watchtower 1971 Dec 15 p.750
This is not what was intended by the Scriptures. The Bible states that the appointment over all the belongings is made after the master arrives.
Matthew 24:46,47 "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving (erchomai) finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."
The master has not yet arrived, as the memorial is to cease on his arrival, and so the Slave has not been appointed over all the belongings.
1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives (erchomai)."
The leaders have prematurely seized control for themselves, and consolidated that control. The 2012 version of the doctrine leaves Christians uncared for between 33 CE and 1919 CE, and elevates the exclusivity and importance of Governing Body. This is in contrast to the parable, which indicates that at this time the elders are to be shepherds of the congregation.
One would expect that the definition for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to be a person that worships Jehovah. However, the defining concept to being a Jehovah's Witness is not worship of Jehovah, but rather following the "faithful and discreet slave." In a judicial committee, the foremost question is not whether a Witness believes the Bible or worships Jehovah, but whether they believe God is using the Watchtower Faithful and Discreet Slave in our day. If a person believes in the Bible and Jehovah, they will still be disfellowshipped as an apostate if they openly confess that the Watchtower leaders do not represent Jehovah's slave.
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JWs major in minors!
by Vanderhoven7 inhow do jws major in minors?.
by the way, jws aren't the only ones.. .
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Vanderhoven7
God made the decision to allow beards.
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I've done it: Christmas Lights Outside
by StephaneLaliberte inlets see if that causes a problem.
i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.
lets see what happens.
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Vanderhoven7
Good luck Stephane.
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JWs major in minors!
by Vanderhoven7 inhow do jws major in minors?.
by the way, jws aren't the only ones.. .
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Vanderhoven7
How about:
You can lose your family if you, like the angels, the shepherds and the wise men, celebrate Jesus' birthday.
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JWs major in minors!
by Vanderhoven7 inhow do jws major in minors?.
by the way, jws aren't the only ones.. .
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Vanderhoven7
How do JWs major in minors?
By the way, JWs aren't the only ones.
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Are You Confident With Covid Vaccines and What Officials Say Is The Right Thing To Do?
by minimus inmost of my friends have gotten the vaccines and are quite confident that it’s just what the doctor ordered.
i’m not confident with dr. fauci.
i don’t like the fact that the makers of the vaccines are not held responsible if someone taking the vac develops an illness or even death.
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Vanderhoven7
Don't know what to make of this guy.
https://drmikeyeadon.substack.com/p/silver-bullet?triedRedirect=true
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My Experience Growing up as a JW
by MissSC ini have never really shared my experience growing up as a jw, but feel it is time to share.
i am 26 years old and was raised as a jw from birth.
i left the jw when i was 14 by actions and 21 by a written letter, because i was baptised at the age of 11. .
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Vanderhoven7
Another person's sad upbringing.
Looking back at 45 years of being raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in the farmlands of North Carolina, I have come to believe that there are some aspects of their religious doctrine that are more destructive to an individuals emotional development and mental well-being than others. For example:
It is continuously impressed on Jehovah's Witnesses, particularly during their impressionable youth and teens, that the world around them is disgusting and doomed. They are expected to shun as worthless anything that might establish some vestige of a foundation in current society. Things like advanced education, career development, competitive sports, youthful romance, or even retirement savings and home ownership, are generally framed as dangerous and misguided, frivolous, and wasteful squandering of time and resources that would be be better directed toward furthering the expansion of the organizations agenda.
This misanthropic world view permeates the actions of Jehovah's Witnesses, serving the purpose of alienating them from the people and life opportunities around them. It promotes and sustains disfunction mentally, emotionally, financially, and even physically.
Plainly stated, their belief is that everything around them is so hopelessly corrupt and diseased, that there is no reason to try to pursue enjoyment and fulfillment in their current life. The only hope for happiness, then, exists in a future utopic snow globe world that even they are hard pressed to explain in realistic terms. This concept literally sucks the passion and joy out of them, replacing it with a desperation for the acceptance and approval of others who are simply running on the same sad treadmill.”
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Generation Links
by UnDisfellowshipped in* a generation comes and a generation goes: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/193983/1/a-generation-comes-and-a-generation-goes.
* new light: generation: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/186841/1/new-light-generation.
* generation change: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182945/1/generation-change.
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Vanderhoven7
Mark Jones writes:
Re: Watchtower Magazine, dated May 15, 1984. Take a look at the title:
I cannot stress to you enough how a big a deal this statement was. You see, when Charles Taze Russell first founded the Bible Student movement in 1881 (which would later spawn into different splinter groups, one being the Jehovah’s Witnesses) he taught that Armageddon would end in the year 1914.
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
As you can imagine, some people back then were interested in what Mr Russell had to say and why he thought this. For an explanation of how he came to this date see Facts about 607 B.C.E. and whether Jesus started ruling in 1914
So he and his followers went around preaching this. Of course, 1914 came and went without any sort of Armageddon. Jehovah’s Witnesses cling to the idea that “hey, WWI started in 1914, so he was right in that something happened.” Watchtower were then quick to deny that they ever taught that Armageddon would come in 1914, instead they claim that they predicted that “something” would happen.
"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8
"Jehovah's Witnesses have consistently shown from the Scriptures that the year 1914 marked the beginning of this world's time of the end and that "the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men" has drawn near." Watchtower 1993 Aug 15 p.9
So, here’s were a doctrine change came in… in 1935 they changed their doctrine and taught that ONLY 144,000 anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses would get to go to heaven. And not only that, but that:
- The 144,000 were chosen from those who were alive in 1914
- Had witnessed WWI
- Understood that it signified the start of the end
So, EVERY Jehovah’s Witness was taught, and believed, that Armageddon would come BEFORE the 1914 generation of Witnesses would die off. Hence the title of the Watchtower “The Generation That Will Not Pass Away”.
But then, something unexpected happened… they all died.
They all died and still no Armageddon as propheciesed by the Watchtower society. Bear in mind, that many people became Jehovah’s Witnesses (and still do) because they’re taught that Armageddon is “just around the corner” and that only those associated with the Watchtower society will survive.
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19
Also, speaking as an ex-Jehovah’s Witness myself, the main reason we believed we had “the truth” was precisely because no one else was teaching about 1914 and Armageddon. We felt like we were privy to special knowledge that other churches hadn't been clever enough to understand.
So what would the Watchtower society do now after another failed prediction? Prepare to put your common sense and intelligence on hold now…
I was sat in the Kingdom Hall during the Thursday study, I turned the page in the book we were studying called Gods Kingdom Rules and I saw this:
The Watchtower society redefined the word generation. Whereas everyone knows that the word generation means:
noun
noun: generation; plural noun: generations
- 1. all of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively.
The Watchtower society, however, were actually trying to convince their followers that when Jesus said “this generation will by no means pass away…” that he actually meant TWO generations. One that would be chosen in 1914, and another generation that would be born during their lifetime who’s lives would overlap. And that it was this second generation that will not pass away.
They even had to have one of their Governing Body members explain this bizarre new doctrine in a JW Broadcasting video.
This is a major doctrinal change. It turns the whole religion on its head. It doesn't make sense and it required the believer to put their critical thinking and common sense on hold in order to believe it.
I’d estimate that 99.99% of Jehovah’s Witnesses can't even explain this teaching, and it wouldn't surprise me if more than half don't believe it. Because if you claim the Governing Body are wrong you’re liable to be disfellowshipped and shunned.
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Ten Mind Games Jehovah's Witnesses Play
by Sea Breeze injehovah's witnesses are masters at changing definitions of words to redirect thoughts.
they have done this effectively with common theological terms.
the result is that even when people leave, many still think the jw's have "some truth" and that maybe its just the leadership that is the problem.
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Vanderhoven7
The Watchtower has hijacked so many words to fit their theology including "generation", Babylon the Great", "salvation", "other sheep", "Great Crowd " 144,000 etc. etc.
Their version of the "modern other sheep" is fascinating.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. (John 10:16)
And other sheep have I, which are not of this fold: no, because the modern other sheep:
1. will only begin being called early on in the 20th century...not before.
2. They will not be saints of God,
3. They will not have the indwelling Holy Spirit.
4. My righteousness will not be imputed to them.
5. They will not be justified to life,
6. They will not merit being raised in the first resurrection
7. I will not be their personal mediator;
8. They will not be part of my New Covenant arrangement.
9. They will not be entitled to partake of the emblems of my death.
10. They will not have a heavenly hope
11. They will be not Spirit Begotten Son's of God.
12. They will need to be affiliated with the Watchtower Society to be saved from ultimate destruction at Armageddon.
