Posts by Alfred

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Watchtower Career Brochure

by Alfred in

watchtower careers.

would you like to have the most fulfilling career available on earth?consider the great privilege of becoming one of jehovahs witnesses.

we have many titles and classifications* that you can aspire to as you work towards your salvation.

Watchtower Career Brochure

by Alfred in

watchtower careers.

would you like to have the most fulfilling career available on earth?consider the great privilege of becoming one of jehovahs witnesses.

we have many titles and classifications* that you can aspire to as you work towards your salvation.

Would you like to have the most fulfilling career available on earth? Consider the great privilege of becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. We have many titles and classifications* that you can aspire to as you work towards your salvation. For your convenience, we have listed these in order of superiority starting with the highest rank all the way down to what you are now… a worldly person. For more information, please bring this list to the Kingdom Hall nearest you and any elder will gladly show you where all of these titles may be found in your Bible as well as what they are.

1. Governing Body Member (anointed MALES only; directed by God)

2. Corporation President (various corporations worldwide, MALES ONLY)

3. Bethel Department Overseer (various departments; MALES ONLY)

4. Branch Overseer (MALES ONLY)

5. District Overseer (MALES ONLY)

6. Circuit Overseer (MALES ONLY)

7. Bethel Elder (MALES ONLY)

8. Missionary

9. Elder (MALES ONLY)

10. Special Pioneer

11. Bethelite

12. Regular Pioneer

13. Auxiliary Pioneer

14. Ministerial Servant (MALES only)

15. Baptized Publisher (at this level and above you can lose your family and friends if you sin or disagree with the Watchtower’s teachings)

16. Unbaptized Publisher

17. Study

18. Interested One

19. Revisit

20. Worldly person (formerly known as “Goat”)… this is your starting point.

*Note: all of these 20 theocratic classifications have a second designation depending on your level of “field service” these are

· Regular : member who consistently reports at least 15 minutes of preaching per month.

· Irregular : member who has not reported preaching hours in one of the last 3 months.

· Marked : member who continuously analyses Watchtower information first before accepting it.

· Inactive : member who has not reported preaching hours in 6 or more months.

· Dissassociated : member who has submitted a letter of resignation from the corporation. At this point, you drop back down to classification 20 (worldly person) and association with fellow members of the corporation will be kept to an absolute minimum.

· Disfellowshipped : member who speaks out against the corporation or engages in unethical or sinful behavior.

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Fred Franz and high IQ

by petespal2002 in

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i recall reading somewhere that in his lifetime fred franz was listed as one of the most intelligent men in the usa.

can anyone think to what i am referring?

Alfred

In my opinion, anyone who is able to successfully manipulate millions of people using Bible text extrapolation quite possibly does have a high IQ (albeit evil-minded or delusional).

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Sooo Armageddon comes....

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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so let's say armageddon comes,do you believe that all jw's would be destroyed because jehovah knows it's a false religion...it can't be denied,for the most part,they try to live by the bible...if anybody has to be punished i would say it's the leaders...i know that god wouldn't judge a whole organization but persons individually....so what i'm trying to ask is....do you think you're in a better position right now not for freedom but for salvation than the witnesses??

if by the time you're finished reading this post armageddon is here...would u wish that you still were a witness or are you satisfied that you've made god proud?.

Alfred

There is no Armageddon... at least not the WT's interpretation of a so-called Armageddon.

But assuming God does intend to commit global genocide, it won't because people are going to wrong church.

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Ridiculous article I found about anointed going to heaven/partaking of emblems

by lilbluekitty in

i'm copy/pasting this from the cd rom (i only have the 2008 one and older ones), watchtower 2/15/03.

i was browsing to refresh my memory what jws believe about who can partake of the memorial because the church i go to now has the lord's supper every sunday as part of their worship.

a person who truly has this calling does not need to ask others if he has such a hope.

Alfred

Paragraph 4 is implying that the Great Crowd cannot partake because they are in an "unclean state"...

I guess the annointed are in a clean state?

What does that even mean?

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WT Seeking Donations Of Gold: News To Me... When and Where?

by Room 215 in

i noted in a thread on kingdom hall remodelling that some mentioned that a call for donations of gold jewellery was made from the platform.

since this sounds like something that would have been presented by a part on the service meeting and therefore noted in the kingdom ministry schedule, can anyone recall the specifics of this?

if so, how recently?

Alfred

That's how they built the Assemby Hall in Ajalvir, Spain (before selling it for a fat profit recently)... the WT even blatantly admits that poor Spanish kids sold their toys so that this assembly hall could be built (because the GB had no intention of spending one red cent for this hall)...

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The Story of Randall Watters part II - Trouble at Bethel

by Dogpatch in

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my story part 2: trouble at bethel.

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[endif]by my third year at bethel i was really enjoying it and determined to make bethel a life career.

Alfred

"Others were implicated and disfellowshipped as well, such as fellow translators Nestor Kuilan and his wife, as well as Rene Vazquez."

Recently, my wife and I have become friends with Nestor Kuilan and his wife Toni... he's 73 years old now and doing extremely well. He has some really interesting stories about bethel and his time in Spain as missionary and CO... I've been trying to convince him to tell his story here but he prefers to leave the past behind him. He is literally the kindest most humble person I have ever met.

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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

by Dagney in

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i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

they both are undergoing major remodels.

Alfred

This is not only a good source of revenue for the Watchtower but it also increases FIELD SERVICE HOURS which can be used in assembly boasting sessions. (assuming they still allow JWs to count their time for putting up dry wall in the KH)

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Do Wicked Elders and Elderettes Think Jehovah Is Stupid?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

brother pathological liar has remained in his position (appointed by the holy spirit) for thirty years now.

he has no problem lying under oath.

(prayer before a judicial comitte, investigation) or slandering anyone who might stand up to his darkness.

Alfred

there was an elder in my congo that I always tried to avoid as much as possible because he would somehow find a way to latch on to me and dump all the congo's latest gossip on me as if I were a reporter for the National Enquirer... i don't know what the hell made him think that I like listening to his rants because my uncomfortable body language (whenever he carried on with his gossip) was so obvious... but somehow he would sneak up behind me in FS or in the hall and start firing away about how sister chatty can't keep her mouth shut during meetings or how sister sexy always went to the bathroom to check her hair (wtf? how does he even know that?)...

also, whenever someone got df'd, the entire congo knew every last detail of the wrongdoing before the next meeting... i have to wonder whether it was this elder who spilled the beans... he just couldn't control himself...

by the way, he was also collecting disability insurance while regular pioneering and was very open about it!!! wtf???

but at least he was appointed by holy spirit.

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30 Minute Public Talk-CONFIRMED

by stillajwexelder in

i can confirm (as there seems to be some doubt) at the service meeting last night during the item about the new watchtower, a letter was read by the po.

the public talk is to be 30 minutes long.

this is to allow for more association and ministry.. lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed.

Alfred

Commencing full lock-down procedure in 3, 2, 1....