Thanks Timmy!!
That's exactly the reference I was looking for.
i am looking for which wt, and a quote that, if i remember correctly went something like, "jehovah and jesus trust the faithful and discreet slave, shouldn't you?".
i want to show this to my mother and compare it to psalm 146:3:.
"do not put your trust in nobles,.
Thanks Timmy!!
That's exactly the reference I was looking for.
i had a sister who was a tenant in my house and her car was leaking oil all over my newly paved driveway before she moved in i had a condition on the lease that said if her car leaked oil she couldnt park there and i told here after she moved in that she was being deceptive to me when she said her car didnt leak oil she was good friends with a lot of powerful elders in the hall and would you believe they asked to meet with me 3 elders in the back room of the library because they said i had called this sister a liar i got out of it only after i produced a copy of the lease and pictures of the oil mess if i hadnt of had pictures maybe i would of been dfd.
By Kurt Van der Dussen
January 8, 1994
Bogus securities investment adviser/broker Bill D. Brinegar Jr. was sentenced Friday in Monroe County on six felony coun ...
This was the story in the Bloomington Herald Times concerning the above mentioned elder. I can't post the entire story here because you have to pay for an online subscription.
i had a sister who was a tenant in my house and her car was leaking oil all over my newly paved driveway before she moved in i had a condition on the lease that said if her car leaked oil she couldnt park there and i told here after she moved in that she was being deceptive to me when she said her car didnt leak oil she was good friends with a lot of powerful elders in the hall and would you believe they asked to meet with me 3 elders in the back room of the library because they said i had called this sister a liar i got out of it only after i produced a copy of the lease and pictures of the oil mess if i hadnt of had pictures maybe i would of been dfd.
I got a phone call by two elders on a three way call.......Here's the story.
I was about 18 years old and was hanging out with about 3 other 17 to 19 year old brothers. One was a reg pioneer, and I was a cont. Aux. pioneer. The reg pioneer recited the lymeric "There was an old man from Nantucket." Being a devout witness, I had never heard this before. I told him later that he shouldn't have repeated the lymeric because the other two guys were kind of weak, and we should try to encourage them and be positive spiritual influences on them. He agreed and apologized and said he appreciated me saying something to him. It was like a Circuit Assembly part.
I had earlier mentioned to another friend of mine something about my pioneer friend reciting this lymeric. I was not being overly critical, just mentioning that I hadn't heard it before.
The next thing I know, I get a phone call at my parent's house from two elders who want to talk to me. They ask me about it and I say "yes he did recite that, and I talked to him about it. I was applying the counsel from Matthew 18 and the matter was settled between me and him."
The one elder, Bill Brinnegar was his name, told me that Matthew 18 doesn't apply in this case because the other person was a pioneer and had priveleges in the congregation. I couldn't believe it. He was removed as a pioneer the following Thursday!!!
All he did is recite a lymeric with the word "Fuck" in it, and was removed.
The one elder, Bill Brinegar from Bloomington, Indiana was later disfellowshipped and convicted in court of bilking people out of money. He was stealing money through what amounted to a Ponzi scheme. He was taking other peoples money at the same time he's telling me not to apply Matthew 18 when it comes to a pioneer.
i am looking for which wt, and a quote that, if i remember correctly went something like, "jehovah and jesus trust the faithful and discreet slave, shouldn't you?".
i want to show this to my mother and compare it to psalm 146:3:.
"do not put your trust in nobles,.
I am looking for which WT, and a quote that, if I remember correctly went something like, "Jehovah and Jesus trust the Faithful and Discreet Slave, shouldn't you?"
I want to show this to my mother and compare it to Psalm 146:3:
"Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs."
(a little background info before i ask my question...).
my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!
she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).
I remember before a District Convention in Louisville, KY, the Louisville Courier-Journal ran a story talking about the upcoming DC. The writer said something to the effect of, "The Jehovah's Witnesses will be in town this weekend with twenty dollar bills and the Ten Commandments and won't break any of them."
I know JW's always had a reputation for being bad tippers, I know my Dad wasn't a great tipper. The waiter/ waitress was lucky to get 10%. Just because Dad wasn't really in tune to protocol of tipping. I think it was mostly a generational thing because me and my friends always tipped well.
the year is 1969. faithful followers of the watchtower society are gearing up for the imminent end of the system of things just as they had been for the previous ninety years.
a young witness named andrew is trying to decide what to do with his life.
andrew is a smart kid and he has an entire lifetime ahead of him.
Mad Sweeney,
In one word: Excellent!
I a bunch of words: This really nails it. We all know people who are like Andrew. I remember a friend of mine who was an elder and who would be in this age group as he graduated in 1969. He married a sister from the hall and they both wanted children. Of course, it was very unpopular to have children since the end was so close, so they never did. Although he has made a nice career working for his father-in-law, he told me that he and his wife both regret not having children. I'm sure there are thousands and perhaps millions of people with similar stories or can relate.
Of course, to point this out to a JW that they were wrong in saying "You will never fulfill a career" they will just say that they are wrong sometimes. Howver, it has been detrimental to so many witnesses and their families.
so i attended a funeral for a jw who passed away (non-"annointed) and i would have to state that although i have heard the standard funeral talk outline for dozens of funerals i've attended, i never really took the time to listen.
and my god, i was cringing.
the outline is essentially broken down like this:.
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I remember that song very well......But I have NEVER heard it played at a funeral......I'm not saying it never happens, but I have never heard it. Perhaps there was music playing in the background, but no one has ever sang at a Witness funeral that I've ever attended. I have heard more songs sang at "worldly" funerals. Usually, just a single person singing, or the deceased favorite song played on CD, or a song they requested to be played at their funeral.
You said: The main objective of any funeral talk is the good witnessing resulting from a tragic event......
I agree that this is true, however I have attended 12 funerals of family members since Dec of '06. 3 were witnesses. By far the most "preachy" was the non witness funerals. My cousin passed away a week and a half ago, and last week, I attended her funeral. She was studying with the witnesses, but her step father is a minister at a church and he arranged to have one of his colleagues give the funeral service. He almost turned it into a revival. He was getting loud and obnoxious and talking about asking Jesus into your life and how he came to find Jesus etc.....It was far more distasteful than any Witness funeral I've attended.
There were two that I attended last year on my wife's side of the family that were "worldly" and they were very good and dignified.
I'm just saying that overall, my experience has been that witness funerals are more tasteful than non witness funerals. I'm sure there are exceptions.
In light of the above post, only one Witness funeral I have attended recently was in the KH. The others were in funeral homes.
so i attended a funeral for a jw who passed away (non-"annointed) and i would have to state that although i have heard the standard funeral talk outline for dozens of funerals i've attended, i never really took the time to listen.
and my god, i was cringing.
the outline is essentially broken down like this:.
I have never heard a song sang at a Witness funeral EVER and I've been to probably a dozen, including my Dad's. I have never been to a Witness funeral that was anything but respectful. The Elder who gave the talk at my Dad's did a great job and when he brought anything out about the Bible, he would preface it with..."This is what Jim believed......" or "Jim was encouraged by this scripture....."
It couldn't have been more tasteful or respectful.
WOW!!
FF and Gutted really nailed it.
I got married at 19.......we all know how those turn out.....We have one child who is 17 now. My ex was df'd and got remarried to an elder a couple of years ago.....I have since been df'd and my ex's husband got removed as an elder last week!!!! I must admit, though it was kind of bogus reasons for removing him....
I have found that it still "hangs" with me.....the inferiority complex, and the outcast feeling. My wife doesn't understand why I read this site, or why I post here. It is comforting to read posts from all of you who are made of the same cloth as I am.
seems that the gb take every story they can in the bible and claim that although it happened then, it will also happen now.
although this time it will be the gb who is jehosophat, david, paul, jermiah... etc etc take your pick.
what scriptual basis do they have for this belief??
Highdose:
I have wondered this many times. Things that happened in the OT aren't prophecies. They are stories. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that anything in the OT would have two fulfillments. The only thing that has a future fulfillment are prophecies. I can understand using OT stories as examples, and showing the moral of a story, but to say that everything in the OT is a prophecy just because it happened once is ludicrous.