james olsen and richaed wheellock both bethelites.. rich templet.
rich and james out of guilt, richard out of depression.. james and rich were both under 30 years old.. after richard wheelock (a bethel heavy) killed himself the society changed it's stand on whether suicides could be resurrectioned or not..
I grew up with one who committed suicide last year. The funeral was in the KH. One was several years ago, he was a pioneer and had given a part on the CA abou the blessings of reg. pioneering. Another was about 4 years ago. Her husband was an elder and within one year, he married my ex-wife.......He remained an elder even as his wife committed suicide while he was at the assembly.
Sad.
His cadence is like Barak Obama's
http://mp3skull.com/mp3/stephen_lett.html .
I got through about two minutes......when he said the day Carey Barber died, was a bad day for Satan, I dry heaved and had to turn it off.....
andersonsinfo is reporting the following news about the "criminal charges and indictment of the watch tower society in australia" by taking some extracts from different parts of jehovah's witness, steven unthank's blog site, http://www.jwnews.net.
please go to the blog to understand the "indictment" and for detailed reading there is much more information found in a:.
pdf version of the 664 page document "the submission 2011" being the:.
Barb, I think Slimboyfat was being funny. He was clearly not insulting you.
I smell B.S. on this one. The resolution especially. It's obviously a "Fantasy resolution" that will never happen.
Just my $.02
i hail from about 30 miles n of fort wayne.. the complexion of this forum is always changing and i have been around here less and less in the past couple years.
roll call?.
namaste.
Grew up in Lafayette area......living near Indy now........HEY!
"the women make monkeys or dupes of men.
the men have before effeminate, soft and easily influenced and have lost their real manhood and sturdiness in the affairs of state and home.
for instance, when men are sitting at a table and a woman approaches, all the men arise and pay her homage and thereby elevate her to a place above men.
I have nothing to say.....the idiocy stands on it's own. lol
yesterday, there was a thread concerning the recent important discovery they found in the middle east.
if proven to be authentic from the correct time-period it would signify that early christians did indeed use the cross as part of their religion.
we all commented about how if this does indeed turn out to be true, the wtbs and it's jws will either shrug it off or simply come up with some bizarre conspiracy story.. so i decided to test the waters a little.
Morbidzbaby:
I think we may be sibblings. Your mother sounds like my mother.....lol....Hang in there, let's work on each of them and compare notes on who budges first....
-Drew
yesterday, there was a thread concerning the recent important discovery they found in the middle east.
if proven to be authentic from the correct time-period it would signify that early christians did indeed use the cross as part of their religion.
we all commented about how if this does indeed turn out to be true, the wtbs and it's jws will either shrug it off or simply come up with some bizarre conspiracy story.. so i decided to test the waters a little.
Falcon,
I didn't realize you were still an active JW. It's nice to meet you. My older brother is still in as well as my mother, aunt and several cousins and an uncle....All on my dad's side of the family......My dad died as a faithful JW 4 years ago. I've been out for just a few years......but only out mentally for about 6 months.
I like the way you approached it with your wife. I might bring it to my Mom's attention sometime in the near future. Although, she is really not able to articulate what she believes, she believes what the WT says because it's the truth.
I agree with your wife on one point........It doesn't make a difference what Jesus was killed upon. Whether it was a stake (stauros) or a cross, it does not matter. However, I'm sure you agree, the Watchtower and the GB are the ones who have made this an issue.
I applaud you for your efforts and I pray you can open her eyes to understanding and reason.
-Drew
his opinion of some of the posts here of calculations about the past and future,.
etc., aren't given, but i could guess.. http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/entertainment/weird_news/12-year-old-genius-takes-aim-as-disproving-einsteins-theory-of-relativity.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110329/ts_yblog_thelookout/for-12-year-old-astrophysics-prodigy-the-skys-the-limit.
I saw him on Beck yesterday...... It was ridiculous how he used Jake as a prop and didn't really let him explain anything or even finish his equation. Glen interrupted him by drawing a picture of R2D2 on the other blackboard and stopping him shortly after he started to explain his equation. I understand it was over most people's heads, but what's the point of having him on the show to show the equation in the first place if he's not going to let him explain it or finish it. Beck may be a good human being, but he's an idiot.......and his chalkboard schtick is getting old too.
ever heard of transglutaminase?
it's also known as meat glue.
while banned in the eu it is very commonly used in north america and australia.
Outlaw-
I have never heard of any Witness that I know not eating hot dogs for any reason. I know about the blood sausage thing, but as a kid, and even as an adult witness, we would have cookouts and have hamburgers and hot dogs. I never knew of a problem with it.
This reminds me of one thing that I always thought was strange......The WTS used to warn members to look at their pet food and make sure it didn't contain blood. However, the command to abstain from blood was meant for humans, not animals. For God's sake, they kill other animals and eat them blood and all. Anyway, I always thought the dog food thing was stupid.
