okay, if you haven't figured me out yet, read my past forum posts.. so the 2 elders wanted to meet up with me for the last time today to talk to me, but i told them that i want to talk on the phone and not in person as i can speak more freely and have less inhibitions.. they found out that i had committed acts of homosexuality with a few people and they still want to keep me in the congregation somehow.. i, myself, don't feel repentant over what i did and don't really regret much.
if i came across an opportunity to actually be in a relationship with someone and it were to appeal to me, i could potentially take that opportunity.. so now, i need to know what to tell them when they call me in an hour from now.
i want to be able to let them know that i don't mind being disfellowshipped and that i'm not repentant.
"I, myself, don't feel repentant over what I did and don't really regret much." In my opinion, the comment alone answers your own question. Why aggervate the situation? Make it easy on yourself and others...simply walk away.
I wish you the best no matter what you decide.
well my mom and i got into a pretty bad argument today over the phone.
it basically came down to the fact that she couldn't handle what i was saying about the organization, etc and all she could come back to me was that i "hated her?
" i guess i just wanted to share and vent a little too....thanks for letting me do so.. .
"..counseling to deal with the anger I have for all of the injustices that were done to me. I have a long list and one of those on my list is being forced to be part of a crazy fanatic religious cult that puts rules and regulations over imitating Christ and being a good kind person."
I am proud of you all I can say is Bravo for you, your spouse and your child. Your correct that this religion definately doesn't encourage young people to have babies. I'm 38 years old and right now we are trying to get preggo. Just remember that your mom loves you and she is going to need time to get her mind straight. I went through it myself, I backed off a little (didn't always bring it up) gave her space, but I always made sure she knew I loved her no matter what she thought of me. About 1 year went by and she never called me, then one day she called and we meet every week for coffee and talk about the weather ever sense. I hope this helps and gives you a smile.
well i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.
to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.
well a few years later guess what?
That's crap. I'm sorry to hear she's going after your money. I hope you take out the pension (if you can) and sign it off to your mom as a "pay-my-mom-back-loan." It's not right for her to do that. I don't believe people should go back on what they agreed on. Sorry to say, but she's giving a bad name to women.
this is my biggest dilema.
although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.
i love people!.
I'm so glad I do not see anyone anymore. I'm glad I went through what I went through because it makes me appreciate what I have now. My life is calmer and I have so much more peace. I am not sad or angry. I'm happy. I hope you are too.
this is my biggest dilema.
although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.
i love people!.
Remember a TRUE friend will stay with you no matter what. TRUE friends are hard to come by. Once I left JW's I had no one. The very small group of woman (3) that I thought were my TRUE friend, I confided in with my thoughts and asked for help/direction. During the evening while speaking to them they smiled, stayed polite, encouraged me to not give up, hugged me, told me that they would always be around (I felt good that I was honest to them). We ended the evening well with a dinner and a couple of drinks. Talked about girl stuff and after that night, they didn't want to talk to me at the meetings, didn't return phone calls, didn't send a nice note, wouldn't look at me. They pretended that I was DF'd already. Finally I asked them after the meeting if we could all "talk" they agreed and accused me of being "worldly" "Bad company" then an elder came by (which they set up to see me) and he also wanted to "talk." They told him everything that I felt and thought about. After that sad night, I cried, I was hurt, but I also got over it and thank god I got out. Now I have GREAT friends. Sadly, these so-called friends were never my friends in the first place. Move on be happy. It will take a while for you...be strong.
the elders are giving me a chance to meet up with them a last time in order to try to prevent a disfellowshipping.
one of the elders will call me in two days to see what i think because i told him that i don't want to be in the religion anymore.
how can i politely and painlessly refuse?
First off why would you tell them: "I told him that I don't want to be in the religion anymore." I'm just wondering? I have found (several family members confessed to our local elders the same and they were DF'd) it's not helpful. I'd just walk away, change address or hang holiday stuff out, get new cell number...don't take calls, just ignore the whole mess. If you have family in the religion don't give them details (I've found the elders try to get other family members to put the pressure on). AVOID THE ELDERS. Good luck be strong my friend.
it is pegan in origin.
(but i worship magazines made from trees).
it is begging (but i knock on doors with a dumb spiel nobody wants to hear, in hopes of soliciting a few coins).
Im 38 and love dressing up...never did as a kid. I used to sneak a peek out the front window and watch all my school friends play and trick or treat. I was always wanting to be involved. So now, after I'm too old to trick or treat..my husband and I hand out candy and then go to the local bar and join in the costume contest. It's a blast. Just have fun with it. If my mother knew she'd be sooo angry with me. I just do not tell her. I can't wait to have a baby then I can dress him/her up and knock on the door...I suppose I'll live through them. lol
i grew up with certain voices (not faces) that were almost like celebrities to me.
maybe this is only a "born-in" thing.
but there are a lot of them that will forever be stuck in my head.
...I know that's not about Bethal voices...but I just had to send it...
i grew up with certain voices (not faces) that were almost like celebrities to me.
maybe this is only a "born-in" thing.
but there are a lot of them that will forever be stuck in my head.
One time I was forced to go to the assembly in Yuba City, CA after a looooonnnngggg car ride and once the assembly started. The guy that introduces the speaker had the greatest, soothing voice. Almost like Barry White or listening to the announcer on KKSF radio. It was deep and sloooowww. Sad to say, but I couldn't wait for the speaker to stop speaking so I could here this guys voice again. Sadly after lunch break he was "replaced." Some of the people attending were complaining about his voice being "Too sexual..it's too intense." I think that's why he was removed. After the stupid people's comments...I told my mom I was sick and waited out in the car the rest of the program.
what's a really good movie you'd recommend that most people probably haven't seen?.
my personal recommendation: synecdoche, new york.
it's one of those movies that words fail utterly to capture--which really is the hallmark of a good movie, i suppose.
I forgot to say: I'm sure most people seen the movies I mentioned...
