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  Anthony Morris The 3rd Talks About Human Hot Dogs At Armageddon, There Will Be No Picnic For Survivors

  by frankiespeakin in

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  watch out for armageddon it is going to be numbing to human sensibilities:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq4iqrklm.

  i guess he's thinkin jehovah's gonna roast them like a hot dogs burned to a charred ruination over a fire.

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  You're right Daringhart13, this is the type of man they appoint to lead 7 million people. Shocking and alarming.
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  Tech49 on HOURS, TIME, and REPORTS

  by Tech49 in

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  i thought i would share some of my observations on counting field service time, reports, etc.

  and how those reports are viewed, to those that are still so fixated on numbers.. i served as secretary on the service committee for many years, and have seen it all!.

  i was really disheartened when wt changed the requirement for aux pioneering to allow for 30 hrs, instead of the 50 it has been for so long.

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  Thanks for the reply DOC and good on you for doing your job professionaly.

  So much wasteage as it's probably unlikely that JWs would not be reporting their placements to a degree of 50%, they are very proud of their placements. If the WTBTS printed only what was placed or used by JWs their figures would fall dramatically and they couldn't have that.
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  Trivia about the history of the beloved Governing Body

  by Terry in

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  the very first legal governing body of (jehovah's witnesses) bible students were seven persons which included pastor c.t.russell, his wife maria, and his controversial ward, rose ball.. five men and two women.

  these seven persons were also the directors of the watchtower bible and tract society.

  this group set policies and practices for the rest of the religious followers of pastor russell.

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  hat slave is made up of

  as mall group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence. Throughout the last days, the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave have served together at headquarters. In recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the Govern ing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Note, however, that the word “slave” in Jesus’ illustration is singular, indicating that this is a composite slave. The decisions of the Governing Body are thus made collectively. Watchtower 7/15/13

  Thanks for that bit of history. You always bring up topics that make me think and this is no exception.

  Their history makes a mockery of their new idea that the FDS is currently the Governing Body. What about the past? Are they able to identify who composed the FDS at any given time? But they should and if their new teaching on the identity of the FDS is correct, they must.

  They admit that they are just uninspired, imperfect men. Therefore they need to re-examine all their self created doctrines and laws and determine whether they were in fact formed by the FDS or not and in order to do this they need to determine who the FDS was at any given time. If they cannot identify who exactly the FDS was at any given time then they do not know if the doctrines and laws that issued through their publications were presented by their authorised slave or not. I bet they couldn't and won't do it and therefore their is no substantiation to any of their past teachings.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Who's Your Mediator?

  by Darth Rutherford in

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  is jesus your mediator?

  were these men anointed christians?

  ... jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.

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  As you pointed out, the context needs to be considered in order to come to a proper understanding of the scripture and to whom he is referring to. Time after time the GB fail to do this. It is an example of how they make the bible fit their own doctrines.

  Lastly, Paul shows that it is his purpose to witness to the “nations” that Jesus is mediator and ransomer.

  The other sheep are declaring that Jesus' is the mediator for only 144,000. Where is the commission that they gather in future chosen ones? They are drawing people in where some will have the opportunity to have Jesus as their mediator and most won't. With their failure to understand the mediatorship they are failing in bringing this message, their witnessing work becomes futile.
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  Anthony Morris The 3rd Talks About Human Hot Dogs At Armageddon, There Will Be No Picnic For Survivors

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watch out for armageddon it is going to be numbing to human sensibilities:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq4iqrklm.

  i guess he's thinkin jehovah's gonna roast them like a hot dogs burned to a charred ruination over a fire.

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  Frankeispeakin said

  Anthony is so disjointed in his talks 1st he's tell the r&f that Jehovah is sensitive to the needs of his people and that Jehvah want people to know he's the father of tender mercies and love and all that good stuff and then with out a pause he's telling the audience(even very young children) that human who jehovah puts to death are going to be burned beyound recognition and it will be traumatic to their mental stability. Talk about holding two thoughts creating cognitive disonnance,ouch that's gotta hurt. He's got serious mental problems.

  It reminds me of years ago when you would see an old religious fanatic ranting and raving in public. Their speach was also disjointed and they were obviously mentally deficient. I don't see them these days and that is probably due to advances in medical science with these guys being prescribed appropriate medication.
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  Tech49 on HOURS, TIME, and REPORTS

  by Tech49 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought i would share some of my observations on counting field service time, reports, etc.

  and how those reports are viewed, to those that are still so fixated on numbers.. i served as secretary on the service committee for many years, and have seen it all!.

  i was really disheartened when wt changed the requirement for aux pioneering to allow for 30 hrs, instead of the 50 it has been for so long.

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  Is there ever a reconcilliation between the number of books and magazines placed against the numbers recieved by the congregation, say on a yearly basis?
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  Moral dilemma: to tell my husband or not to tell him...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
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  that his jw best friend he hasn't seen in ages is coming for holidays from where he now lives overseas.

  this jw friend was instrumental in getting my husband into the cult before we met.

  i heard from a jw from my old cong who just emailed me.

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  Personaly I don't think you have any choice. Given that they are really great friends then he is going to contact him and you are right, not telling him could leave him with bad feelings about you.

  Given that he is likely to learn of his visit anyway, it could be to your great advantage to tell him. It gives you plenty of time to discuss his feelings and how he might handle his lack of inactivity with his friend.
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  I think that I could get my husband Df'd

  by ingimar in

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  there are some things that i wish the local congregation knew about my husband but i am not sure how to inform them.. my husband was a jw in a previous marriage but none of his family are jw's except for one half sister who he recently met for the first time.

  his ex wife is no longer a believer either and their three adult kids want nothing to do with the jw's.. i met my husband 8 years ago on eharmony.

  i should have been leary when he stated his religion as "christian".

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  Sorry to hear about your rare blood disease Ingamar.

  I agree, it is pointless to out your husband and is likely to lead to some damage. It is lovely that your husband has stopped attending for the time being and it gives you an idea of what he thinks is more important. Show your appreciation and hope that he keeps it up.

  You may be walking a fine line but you could ask him to stop this elder (or anyone else) from visiting. In the meantime use TTATT (the truth about the truth) so that he doesn't become fully brainwashed again.

  Some ex-jw's feel guilt for having left and are not 100% sure that the JWs are not the true religion, you need to concentrate on this aspect. An excellant book is Crisis of Conscience written by an ex Governing Body member and sheds a lot of light on the religion as well as removing that guilt feeling.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-02-2013 WT Study (NAME)

  by blondie in

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  jehovahs witnesses view gods name?.

  gods people that he really would.

  non-jews, became a people for [gods].

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  Thanks Blondie, you do a great job.

  "14,15 Despite the spread of apostasy, what has Jehovah done about his memorial name?"

  That does the term 'memorial name' even mean? He is a living God.

  "Granted, its exact pronunciation cannot now be determined, but the name has endured."

  How can a name endure if it can't be pronounced? Surely, it could only endure in the written form.
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  Here's PROOF that Charles Taze Russell Was NOT a Pennsylvania Freemason

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no, charles taze russell was not a pennsylvania freemason!.

  this is the answer i received in a letter: .

  "after a search of our records, we determined that the three russell's were not members of our organization.

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  Alaues you can write to the same centres that B. Anderson wrote to, that way you will have first hand proof. If you use the search button up on the left hand side you will find plenty of pictures. There's also a link on this thread.

  Just out of curiosity what are you refuting?