It is sounding like the position of COBE is more desireable to have in this class distinctive organization and goes along with the reason the org is giving for this change. They want others to reach out for this title. It is a men's club after all.
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COBE cannot be 80 or more
by fader77 ina new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.
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COBE cannot be 80 or more
by fader77 ina new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.
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I am wondering if the work load of a COBE is greater than that of an Elder?
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Jehovah's Witnesses "New Donation" Arrangement Update!
by Littleleslie inplease check out this you tube video on the "new donation" arrangement update.
its pretty interesting.. see link below.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsodgtx6d58.
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Villagegirl, I guess I just don't understand you. You said that he was often drinking and now you say that you saw him have one drink. I wouldn't be surprised if you now said 'but I didn't actually say what he was drinking and I didn't mean to imply it was alcohol.
No, I don't know what you have done to help others and it is often people who are outspoken that stand up for others. These guys have done nothing to you and are only trying hard to help others and then you attack them with suggestions about overdrinking. How they affect you is your personal business but there is no need to be offensive regardless of how opinionated and verbose you are.
Thank you for the apology but it's not me whom you should be apologizing to.
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Jehovah's Witnesses "New Donation" Arrangement Update!
by Littleleslie inplease check out this you tube video on the "new donation" arrangement update.
its pretty interesting.. see link below.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsodgtx6d58.
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I think the title of the video can be misunderstood. It is not an update about the new arrangement but it is an update to their original video regarding the new arrangement and what is happening in the congregations. This is how the couple work, they deal with a subject and later on give an update of current happenings within the organization.
Mike and Kim may not be for everyone and these days there is so much choice out there to consider TTATT. It is disappointing to see people criticize them when they themselves have done virtually nothing in comparison to this couple in trying to help others.
They work well together and are a pleasure to listen to. I thank them for their dedication, insight and constructive work that they do.
That is a very nasty thing to say Villagegirl about Mike when you said
he has often been drinking and they just muddle up the issues
Often drinking???? And to suggest that they are muddlying up the issues because of this is below the belt. Would you like someone to come along and say such things about you? I can only think that your comments are made to stir up trouble. Among the other nasty comments you made you say they are irrelevant. Really? They are talking about JWs and that is exactly what they do. Then you say that listening to them is like having evenings where you want to leave or just kill yourself. I am afraid that if that is the case then you have some real problems and should seek professional help.
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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You would be right Inside KH. This is all coming from the Governing Body, the Branch Office is just the Office where the congregations send their money. We may as well point our fingers in the correct direction.
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After JWs inherit the earth...
by Zoos in... will they destroy all great pieces of religious art?.
just finished watching monuments men.
great movie!
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Moses might be given Beth Sarim and Russel's resting place may be destroyed.
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Maybe the property did sell for market value, the whole congregation would know what it sold for.
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I love the fact that the GB is becoming more visible. Why? Think micro expressions.
by Island Man inmicro expressions are involuntary facial expressions lasting for half a second or less.
these facial expressions mirror a person's true emotions and so provide a window into a person's feelings in response to a statement or question.
particular facial expressions correspond to particular emotions and the mappings are universal across cultures.
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Sorry, double post.
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I love the fact that the GB is becoming more visible. Why? Think micro expressions.
by Island Man inmicro expressions are involuntary facial expressions lasting for half a second or less.
these facial expressions mirror a person's true emotions and so provide a window into a person's feelings in response to a statement or question.
particular facial expressions correspond to particular emotions and the mappings are universal across cultures.
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The GB men are not your average person, they already know how to play the game. They also want to convince every JW of what they are saying and would know how to stage act.
At a guess, I would doubt that microexpressins are apparent when a person is giving a prepared speech, especially one that he has written himself or put into his own words.
You raise the point of noting their expression when they are being asked a question and this would be a better way of analysing their expressions. Isn't it funny that they have never allowed this type of question and answer from the platform with the congregation. It's not as if there isn't enough time to allow for this. In a learning situation this type of dialogue is an excellant way of learning and more often than not a question asked by a member of the audience is something most of the audience are usually interested in knowing the answer to. It also draws the whole group together in a friendly way and makes them feel as if they are working together. But like door to door witnessing the GB are not interested in the best way of doing things.
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GUILT TRIPS AND EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL!!!
by DATA-DOG inall hell has broken loose at my house!
the wife is pissed [ i did not turn in the "voluntary tithe" slip .
if she doesn't go, then she cannot do x event tomorrow.
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Tread very carefully where your daughter is concerned. She is manipulating you by trying to get your sympathy and to side with her.
Sit down with your wife and ask her what is really upsetting her and you'd like to make things better for her. She probably feels like she has to deal with everything and you are not sharing the load with her (JW responsibilities) and this includes that possibly your daughter is not so interested in the religion. There's not much you can do about being a good JW just to make peace at home unless you feel so inclined but that won't do you any good mentally. Instead you'll need to deal with the behaviour in a more logical, down to earth way. For instance, in relation to your daughter ask her if your daughter's reaction was appropriate and what could have led to her bad feelings, discuss whether you both could have dealt with it differently.
Also ask her why it upset her so much that you didn't put your pledge slip in. This would be a good opportunity to tell her that you are not happy with the arrangement and that you feel that if/when you want to donate money you would rather do it from your heart rather than having your hand forced in providing a set amount.