Posts by jay88

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

jay88

It doesn't make us any less hypocritical to be pointing a finger at God, considering all the harm that we actually DO, do.

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You are probably the sweetest person on this board,....

But do you think, this statement is a bit petty?

PSOC

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

jay88

Kind of hypocritical of us to point the finger at God,

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Man did not create natural disasters, or chronic illness.

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How to convince someone to question the authority of the WT

by LanaMich19 in

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friends

i have someone in my family that is a jw and she has engaged me in conversation.

for the record, i consider myself an evangelical christian.

after some debate and research, i backed out of a verse by verse debate and switched the convo to get on some common ground, asking if she believe the bible was the inspired word of god.

jay88

Bigmouth: In fact, a highly educated person has a greater capacity to juggle concepts and abstract thought and come up with a complicated belief and then defend it against all attacks.

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Yes, indeed.

PSOC

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

jay88

The sum of this thread:

All things of love and goodness, come from "god"

All things NOT of love and goodness, comes from us(humanity), even natural disasters and chronic illness.

PSOC

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hi, i'm a new member that enjoys civil debate, so i thought i'd just throw a topic out there.. if we take the standard, contemporary judeo-christian god (all-knowing, all powerful, and perfectly good in every possible way) and attempt to incorporate free will, we end up with a contradiction.

an all knowing being knows everything that has occured, is occuring and will occur, if otherwise then we can not consider this being to know all.

if god knows all that will happen, then he knows our decisions, as well as the outcomes of those decisions.

jay88

The person who says this:

tec: 4-15 million children are starving every year because of our decisions, actions or lack of actions.

tec: WE are starving our children.

tec: This is the same question as 'why does God allow suffering?'

also says this:

tec: Since God can see our paths, then He can know when the right time (and how) to interfere might be... or not. Which is why we pray that HIS will be done... not our own.

Hmmmmm,

PSOC

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What is it with OBVES that you give him/her the time of day ?

by smiddy in

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i am at a loss as to understanding why some people give so much time and energy to responding to people like obves on this board ,,,,,,,,and of course he`s not the only one , ,,,,,,,,,why do we give these guys the platform to espouse their dribble ?

on this site ?

it is an exjw site is it not,?

jay88

OP: It is an exjw site is it not,? not a platform for promoting some other quasi religous beleif who wants to promote their own ego`s

Ain't that the truth,....truth

PSOC

48

Well, it's official, I am a rabid, mentally diseased Apostate!

by serenitynow! in

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so an apostabuddy wanted to stage a silent protest at the assembly hall where she was baptized.

we went today.

the plan was to wear these apostate t-shirts that had stuff printed on them about thinking for yourself, and a bunch of websites.

jay88

Not sure blondie,.....I see it in IRC's(Chat Rooms) all the time.

48

Well, it's official, I am a rabid, mentally diseased Apostate!

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

so an apostabuddy wanted to stage a silent protest at the assembly hall where she was baptized.

we went today.

the plan was to wear these apostate t-shirts that had stuff printed on them about thinking for yourself, and a bunch of websites.

jay88

www.jehovaha-witness.net = s/jehovaha/jehovahs/g