When I was a MS I used to mention that from the platform. I'd tell the congregation to look around, take note of who is missing, and call them yourselves to tell them you miss them. Don't leave it up to the elders and MS, because if we go on a shepherding call and tell them they are missed, they will reply, "Then how come no one calls me, no one visits me..." They know the elders and MS do it because it's part of their responsibilities. But when you call or visit, they'll know it's because you "want to" (referencing Jesus' words "I want to").
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What do you think about the "United Church of God"?
by tia.dalma inhere is a link to their main site.
http://www.ucg.org/.
i've read a little about them and they do not believe in trinity, and have similar believes as jehovah's witnesses.. they also try to keep all ten commandments, in addition to that.. i did not research all their doctrines, but a lot of them look familiar to me.. what do you think?.
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They teach that masturbation is a sin.
They are pretty much a different version of the JW's, except that the Church of God practices tithing, and they celebrate certain festivals. They don't go door-to-door though, but instead they use the internet and other means for spreading their message.
Interestingly, I looked on their website for local congregations, and found only phone numbers, not addresses. Where do they meet? Sounds secretive to me.
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"Overlapping generation" explanation - TRANSCRIBED EXTRACT from Friday's talk (DC 2011-12)
by AnnOMaly ini thought this would be easier to examine if written down:.
god's kingdom will soon come.
so we know that god's kingdom will soon come.. .
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So now the "generation" consists of Group 1 and Group 2".
At next year's convention, the new light will be that there is a Group 3, and for 2013's convention there will be Group 4...Group 5...maybe there will be 144,000 "groups" of groups of discerners, basking in the light, pawing the ground like fattened calves.....
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So..... are you apostates enjoying your mansions and private jets?
by Mr. Falcon ina super-zealous elder once told me in a very grave tone, "you know, mr. falcon, when someone becomes an apostate and leaves god's organization, they usually do very well physically and materially.
" hence the reason he claims that they feel "vindicated".
now i do also remember hearing such statements in the past from other witnesses.
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Think of how much $ we used to spend each year for conventions and assemblies. Buying a vehicle suitable for field service rather than what we preferred to own. Contributions. Gas and other expenses for field service. Clothing for meetings, including the dry cleaning bills.
Now we no longer have those expenses. So, "evidently" this "generation" that used to spend their "unrighteous riches" on field service and meetings is now enjoying their "symbolic" mansions and "spiritual" private jets which are being progressively revealed to those of the apostate class who have exercised "discernment" and have "quit touching" the WT.
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Harold Camping: I meant October 21 -- May 21 was SPIRITUAL judgement day
by FatFreek 2005 inya'll need to cut harold camping some slack on his apparent failure at his may 21 prediction.
to use a patent watchtower alibi, "he never used the special words, "jehovah said".
besides, harold obviously had some new light since and has altered his prediction by adding 5 months to the original.. harold camping "... said that instead of the biblical rapture in which believers were expected to ascend into heaven, a spiritual judgement day occurred on may 21 instead.
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Maybe he "evidently" meant that the "generation" that saw May 21 would also see Judgement Day with their eyes of spiritual discernment.
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Welcome, burnedout! Here you'll find support from real friends who can truly understand and empathize.
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Facebook-Jehovah's Witnesses
by Lunatic Faith inso, i have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for jw's.
i didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group.
i went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined.
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If you have your own facebook page, put something in your profile under "religious views", like "formerly Jehovah's Witness, now [whatever]" or just "ex-JW" or atheiest....anything that makes it clear you are no longer a JW.
I did that on mine. Some JW "friended" me, exchanged one or two messages, then apparently (or should I say "evidently"?) saw my "religious views" in my profile and quietly unfriended me.
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I also have questions about field service...
by losthobbit ini never was a jw, so please excuse my lack of knowledge here.... after reading some posts on this forum it seems i've realized that i don't fully understand what field service is.
it seems that field service is the following (and please correct me):.
- something jw's have to do for a specific number of hours per month.
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losthobbitt, why not invite us for a meal? We'll bring the beverages. hee hee hee
When I was an active witness, occasionally a co-worker or a neighbor would ask me privately what it was like to go in field service. They weren't interested in scriptural reasons or beliefs, but just what is was like. I always enjoyed those discussions.
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I also have questions about field service...
by losthobbit ini never was a jw, so please excuse my lack of knowledge here.... after reading some posts on this forum it seems i've realized that i don't fully understand what field service is.
it seems that field service is the following (and please correct me):.
- something jw's have to do for a specific number of hours per month.
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losthobbit, in many cases, participating in a conversation with the witnesses when they come to your door might lead them to believe there is some degree of interest on your part. In other words, they'll make a point to come back again and again. However, this may not be so bad if you do enjoy conversing with them.
It also depends on the individual witnesses. For example after going door to door for an hour and either finding no one home, or having a few homes where people were nasty and told me to get lost or to go to hell, if I came across a friendly person, I would welcome the little "break" and not want to ruin it by being too pushy. I know of other witneses who would do this too. If the householder had a classic car, we'd chat about that. I'm a dog lover and naturally would chat about dogs if there was a dog there. Some people would just want to ask us about our beliefs, but are not interested in the literature. I figure, we are neighbors, we see each other in the grocery store and around town, why not be friendly and interested in others in the community?
Other witnesses I knew would only want to get to their point, and if you didn't want the literature they would leave. They're on a "mission". Maybe that type is not worth talking to anyway.
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Where to JWs park their cars when going door-to-door?
by bradp ini am a christian and have handed out tracts all over my neighborhood,.
i'm ready to go to a new neighborhood and am trying to determine where to park my car without it getting towed.. is there a jw publication available that covers this kind of info?
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If parking is permitted in the street, park in front of a house where no one appears to be home. Or else right at the border of two properties.
If there is no parking allowed on that street, try parking around the corner, or on the next block. There could be a small parking lot there - perhaps for a bank or church - or an empty lot.
When choosing a neighborhood to work in, you can drive around first to determine where to park. You might end up parking in one street, walking 2 blocks away, and working your way back toward your car.
Watch out for dogs. If confronted by a dog, DO NOT look at its eyes. Look over its head. Never look at its eyes; to a dog that is a confrontation.