Posts by kes152

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Spiritual Food at the right time?

by aud8 in

i have another question.

i am a jw who is engaged to marry a catholic.

i have had all the talks etc from the elders and i am now 'marked' for the benefit of other young ones in the congregation i.e.

kes152

aud8,

So why would God use a "wicked organisation" to tell me to marry only within that organisation??

Jehovah used the "organization" to tell you to "marry only in THE LORD."

It was the "wicked organization" that ADDED to what is in scripture by not saying "marry only in the Lord" but instead "marry only in the ORGANIZATION."

See how "Lord" was quickly REPLACED with Organization. And you know what happens to those who "add" and "take away."

This is where YOU the reader, uses DISCERNMENT. Namely ... to only marry in the Lord. ANYONE who belongs to the Lord, in or out of the organization... BELONGS to the Lord.

Now the fact that the "Lord" was quickly replaced with "organization" is a fullfillment of the Lord's words when he said:

"All those who have come IN PLACE OF ME are THIEVES AND PLUNDERERS."

John 10:8

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Genesis: Waters and Expanse

by dreamer in

just a little niggle i have:.

in genesis 1:6-10 it talk of how the 'waters' were divided into upper and lower with an expanse in between.

this expanse became known as 'heaven', the waters underneath the heaven became the foundation of earth.

kes152

Hi dreamer,

The water that is above the expanse is still there....

If you notice .... what was put IN the expanse BETWEEN the waters was the SUN, MOON, STARS, etc. In other words... the Physical universe.

Genesis 1:14-19

So this water that was ABOVE the expanse was actually "outside" the physical universe.... in the "spiritual universe," HEAVEN.

Is there water in heaven?

Yes!

Genesis 7:11
John 4:14
Revelation 4:6
Revelation 22:1

In Noah's day, spiritual water fell from heaven, traveled through the physical universe ... and "transfigured" into physical water (like manna did) and flooded the earth.

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Calling all bible experts !!!

by thinker in

question:.

genesis says that on the first day god creates lightand divides the light from the dark.

then on day four he creates the sun, moon, and stars to divide the light from the dark.

kes152

Gopher,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Peace to you, my friend
Aaron

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Spiritual Food at the right time?

by aud8 in

i have another question.

i am a jw who is engaged to marry a catholic.

i have had all the talks etc from the elders and i am now 'marked' for the benefit of other young ones in the congregation i.e.

kes152

aud8,

I was directed to remind you the words of Jesus. He said:

"I am the bread of life. Anyone that comes to me will not get hungry at all. and he who believes in me will never get thirsty at all."

Do you believe this?

Do you believe this SO much that you can leave your "religion" and KNOW you will never hunger nor thirst because Christ himself will feed you, like he did Paul, John, etc. while they were separated and in prison?

Do you have that much faith in him?

When Israel was led by Moses and Aaron, Israel knew they would be ok as long as Moses (the Mediator) and Aaron (the High Priest) guided them. Do YOU believe as long as you are under Christ (YOUR Mediator and High Priest) you will be ok? Whenever God had something to say, he spoke to Moses, and Moses told Israel. When God has something to say today, he tells YOUR Mediator, and he comes to tell you, through the holy spirit IN you.

It is offered to you to recieve the free gift of holy spirit so that by means of that spirit you can be taught "all things" so that you would "need no man to be teaching you" at all.

If you want this free gift, you may ask him, and he wil give to you according to your faith.

Peace,
Aaron

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Question

by realcourchesne in

if we read the new world translation as it is written, it is quite clear that the god to which they refer to, when using the name jehovah is not applicable to the father but would identify the son, jesus the christ instead.. is any one here reads the same thing i read?.

correct me if im wrong but i find that the new world translation tells us that jehovah (the father) is the judge.

"as for jehovah, he will sit to time indefinite.

kes152

Hey real,

He said his Father is THE Creator. The Father created, and all things came through the Son. Just like Adam was created, and all sons were created through Adam. The Son was created, and all things came through the Son.

He also said to remember that he said:

"Indeed, I assure you, the Son can do nothing of himself. Only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever the Father is doing, these things also the son does in like manner."

"For the Father loves the Son, and shows him ALL THINGS that he himself does; and greater works than these will he show him, that you may wonder."

John 5:19, 20

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Question

by realcourchesne in

if we read the new world translation as it is written, it is quite clear that the god to which they refer to, when using the name jehovah is not applicable to the father but would identify the son, jesus the christ instead.. is any one here reads the same thing i read?.

correct me if im wrong but i find that the new world translation tells us that jehovah (the father) is the judge.

"as for jehovah, he will sit to time indefinite.

kes152

Hello realcourchesne,

Sure, ask anything you like. I must warn you however, the 'false stylus' has altered John 1:3 in the NWT. It was also altered in the Kingdom Interlinear of the Greek Scriptures, but it has remained intact in the Emphatic Diaglott. There is a small phrase that is missing, and because of that... the NWT implies "evil" originated from God.

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Organised Religion

by aud8 in

if none of you believe in organised religion then who is the "faithful and discreet slave" mentioned in the bible?

kes152

aud8,

also remember the Ethiopian, when he was baptized, he WENT HIS WAY REJOICING.

He did not follow Peter or join and stay in Jerusalem where the others were.

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Spiritual Food at the right time?

by aud8 in

i have another question.

i am a jw who is engaged to marry a catholic.

i have had all the talks etc from the elders and i am now 'marked' for the benefit of other young ones in the congregation i.e.

kes152

aud8,

The reason that happens for you, is because when the Father told you by holy spirit, you ignored it. When you were directed to read the scriptures on it, you didn't get the "sense" of it.

So.. He permitted "men in charge" who are not your spiritual parents, but "hired men" to tell you. PERHAPS you will listen to them.

Galatians 4:1-3
John 10:12-14

Just like how Jehovah can use "wicked governments" to teach his people, so can he use a "wicked organization." God uses whomever he wants to use.

By your line of reasoning, that means if the governments taught you a valuable lesson about God... you should become actively involved in the governments.

You might want to take note, bible knowledge is NOT spiritual food. No where in the bible does it say Bible knowledge is spiritual food.

Spiritual food is just like physical food. Physical food feeds physical BEINGS, spiritual food feeds SPIRITUAL BEINGS.

you didn't know the angels eat food just like we do?

Psalms 78:25

"powerful ones" are the angels ... see your NWT footnote for literal translation.

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Question

by realcourchesne in

if we read the new world translation as it is written, it is quite clear that the god to which they refer to, when using the name jehovah is not applicable to the father but would identify the son, jesus the christ instead.. is any one here reads the same thing i read?.

correct me if im wrong but i find that the new world translation tells us that jehovah (the father) is the judge.

"as for jehovah, he will sit to time indefinite.

kes152

If Jesus became the savior only after He lived and die on this earth; when did the Lord, LAID, (Place, put down), THE FONDATION of the earth itself?

He "laid the fouundation of the earth" in the beginning. all things were made because of him, in the beginning. Although all things were made by means of him, that did not make him the "Savior for Israel. "

Remember, He PLAINLY says that "they were yours and you GAVE them to me." He said they were not his, although they came into existence because of him. He had to be made perfect in order to be their Savior. The Father had to GIVE them to him in order for them to be his.

He laid the foundation, the heavens were the work of his hands, but that did not make him a Savior. A creator, perhaps, but not a Savior. More is needed in heaven to be recognized as a "Savior," and at the time, Jesus did not have it.

Peace,
Aaron

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I'm a Christian

by Erin4Christ in

i can't believe you people!

how can you brainwash so many people into believing this crap?!?

if you'd like to try explaining to me what you believe, please email me because i'm only gonna come back here to tell people the truth!.

kes152

Perhaps you haven't lurked here long enough.

Maybe the victims of complete lies from your ever so great leader, Mr. Russell...
I would like to point out the fact that you've predicted the end of the world what, 3 times now? And as far as I know I'm still here.

If you read any of our posts, you'd KNOW we don't believe in Russel.

." Now, according to yall, Jesus Christ is not the son of God,

Again.. you haven't lurked long enough.

May i DIRECT you to "revelation" of the Son of God:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7445&site=3

peace to you
Aaron