Posts by kes152

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Bible Chapters...

by Mr Magoo in

can anyone give me a list over the names/labels in the bible (john, jerimiah, psalms...) in the order they appear.. or a list with the names/labels translated into danish... i'm having a hard time looking up verses i find in this forum, in my danish bible.. (actually i don't have a bible - but it's on the internet).. thank you.

take care.

mr. magoo

kes152

Here you go:

Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Ruth
1 Samuel
2 Samuel
1 Kings
2 Kings
1 Chronicles
2 Chronicles
Ezra
Nehemiah
Esther

Job
Psalms
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Songs

Isaiah
Jeremiah
Lamentations
Ezekiel
Daniel
Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi

Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
Acts

Romans
1 Corinthians
2 Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians
Colossians
1 Thessalonians
2 Thessalonians
1 Timothy
2 Timothy
Titus
Philemon

Hebrews
James
1 Peter
2 Peter
1 John
2 John
3 John
Jude

Revelation

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Do you want the real truth or not?

by Jason in

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friends

on this website there seems to be so many lies and so little actual truth.

is this supposed to be a place to get answers or confuse the hell out of truth seekers?

well, for you seekers out there, if you find the truth on this site it'll be a major fluke.

kes152

Greetings!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=8326&site=3

May you have peace!
Aaron

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Howdy ALL.. Jason et. al.

by kes152 in

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friends

peace to you all!.

i know i have been out and probably mostly everyone here enjoyed my "departure.

" but.. i have been "sent back" to speak with reference to jason's thread.. jason:.

kes152

Peace to YOU all!

I know I have been out and probably mostly everyone here enjoyed my "departure." But.. I have been "sent back" to speak with reference to Jason's thread.

Jason:

Although we have not spoken too much, actually very briefly, I am compelled to respond to your post regarding "the truth."

Remember when our Lord was on the earth and he designated 70 to preach saying 'The kingdom of God has drawn near?' Well, keep in mind that when he sends us out.. he said

"Go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Many of the house of Israel are here at this board. If the spirit sent you here to share the truth with them.. then just post that truth up. Those that are his sheep will HEAR HIS VOICE. All we do is put it out there. Let them make a decision as to whether they want to "hear or refrain."

Remember, this is not "our will." It is his will. So if the holy spirit sent you here.. give them the truth. If they don't want it.. they will not take it. For those who are asking, will KEEP asking. Don't leave this site until you KNOW that holy spirit says to you .. "that's enough." Like Paul.. he preached the truth to the Jews regardless as to whether they asked him for it or not. Paul did not stop speaking to them UNTIL Jesus told him.. "I have other work for you to do." And remember, even after he was sent to the nations, the Lord eventually told him to "go back to Jerusalem" to speak to the rulers.

We go wherever the spirit tells us to go. And when we go.. we are to "speak as we hear" for what we teach is not ours anyways. It belongs to him that sent us. All we are, are "mouths" that speak only what the holy spirit tels us to say ... 'in the hour that we say it.'

Matthew 10:19, 20
John 7:16, 17
John 16:13
John 10:3, 4

so if you have the truth, just speak it. Let those hearing, hear, and let those refraining "refrain." Whatever you hear Jesus whisper to you, PREACH ON THE HOUSE-TOPS.

Matthew 10:27
Ezekiel 3:27

Everyone who responed to Jason:

Don't think badly of him, he was just doing what he was 'commissioned' to do. Listen to what he says, give him a chance. If you don't like it.. or if you do, its your decision. I don't know if he's going to start preaching the "truth" now.. but if he does, converse on that.

I only spoke breifly with him.. so if you want to "link" me up as one of him.. you might want to hear what he says first BEFORE you do that. He, like ANY ONE OF YOU, are my brothers. And I would do the same for you.. seeing that a 'few' have done it for me.

Peace to you all,
Aaron

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Governing Body & The Borg rejected?

by TheApostleAK in

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friends

just watching a show with gerald flurry on it and i thought his talk was appropriate.

it was regarding the prophecies of jeremiah re: rejection of ancient israel.. question i asked myself "could jehovah ever reject modern day spiritual israel?".

jeremiah 31:37. hosea 9:15-17 (all their badness was in bethel...)(princes = elders)(ephraim = governing body, fds, the borg).. from theapostleak

kes152

Hey Fark,

May YOU have peace!

hmmm... I don't know if I should respond or... if I should "let you be."

Perhaps I will speak with you later. But I AM sending you my greetings. For I have not forgotten you.

Peace bro,
Aaron

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Is Michael the Angel of the Lord?

by tracysdad in

joshua 5:13-15. exactly who is this "commander of the lord's army?

" rev.

12:7 michael & his angels throw satan out of heaven.

kes152

Hello beloved,

May you both have peace! Long time no post.

tracysdad,

you are 100% correct that the 'angel of the Lord' and Michael said the EXACT same thing, namely, "The Lord rebuke you."

Jude 9
Zechariah 3:1, 2

Pomergrante,

you said:

"The above IS a rebuke. Michael rebuked Satan by reminding Satan sternly that the Lord will rebuke him. What Jude says Michael dare not do was, "did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him(Satan)"

Actually.. it is not. Telling someone that they will be rebuked is NOT a rebuke. That is called a 'warning' OF a rebuke. It is the LORD who DOES rebuke. For instance, if you and I were disputing, and I said "May your mom punish you," does that mean I just punished you? Of course not! I have no 'authority' to punish you, but your mom does. It is the same here. Michael did not rebuke the Adversary, it was the Lord who did and will do it.

tracysdad,

you said ealier,

"In light of all of this, could Michael be that "Angel of God.?" If so, then He was Christ."

Is Gabriel and angel of God? Does that make him Christ? how about Ariel?

you also said:

"I know that before He came to earth Jesus Christ was known as the "Angel of the Lord," the revelation of God to man. This "Angel" was the one who spoke to Moses at the burning bush, appeared to Abraham, & the presence that accompnied the Israelites out of Egypt as the pillar of fire. Thois ANGEL spoke for God, in the 1st person. "

you are VERY close. He said the same way it happened with Moses, it happened with Abraham, and Jacob, and John. the key phrase that you said was:

"I know that before He came to earth Jesus Christ was known as the "Angel of the Lord," the revelation of God to man. "

Jesus was not known as the angel of the Lord.... Michael was. Looking in Revelaton 1:1,2 it says:

"A revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs THROUGH HIM to his slave John."

When God, our Father spoke to Moses, ... God's words were given to Jesus Christ who called out to Moses through his angel in the burning bush to his slave Moses. God words were given to Jesus Christ who spoke to Abraham through HIS angel to his "friend" Abraham. He is the Word of God. In Joshua... the same thing. Jesus' angel that spoke to Abraham, Moses, John, was Michael.. the "PRINCE of YOU people".. Israel.

Daniel 10:21

Remember .... no one stands strongly with Jesus Christ in matters regarding the chosen ones of God EXCEPT Michael, their prince. Both Michael and Jesus are the ones 'assisting Abraham's seed.'

Hebrews 2:16

Peace to you all,
Aaron

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I'm a Christian

by Erin4Christ in

i can't believe you people!

how can you brainwash so many people into believing this crap?!?

if you'd like to try explaining to me what you believe, please email me because i'm only gonna come back here to tell people the truth!.

kes152

Jason, my brother,

Why are you crying?

Missed you,
Aaron

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Scales of Justice

by individual in

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friends

this being my first proper post i wanted to raise a question that i asked of an elder.

the only response i received was that i was questioning god.

when i pressed further i was accused of being an apostate.

kes152

God gave his only-begotten Son to the world so that everyone believing in him would not die, but have everlasting life.

The Father knew if he gave his Son, that the world would kill him. He knew this, and his Son knew this. His Son, however, was willing to die for them, so that they may have everlasting life. So the Father loved his Son for loving the world. So the Father, also, out of love for the world gave his only-begotten Son. His Son, "surrendered" his soul in behalf of all those believing in Him.

This wasn't about 'balancing the scales' of justice, but about the world being saved through the Son. The world did NOT deserve this and it is evident by the fact that when he came into the world, the "world HATED him."

Still, the Father loved, even them so that they too MIGHT live forever. In addition, Christ will send (and has sent) the holy spirit into the WORLD. All people, everywhere recieved a 'conviction' by holy spirit concerning sin, righteousness, and judgement.

Sin, because they didn't believe in him, righteousness, because he went his way to the Father, and judgement, because their ruler has been judged. All have heard this and for those who have completely forgotten this 'message' from the holy spirit, the holy spirit will "bring BACK to their minds ALL the things it told them."

Those in other countries, have 'law' written within themselves. And they all know, that if they "break the law" wirtten within, they will have to "render an account" to someone, somewhere. Those who have 'forced' this understanding out of their head .. will hear it again when the holy spirit "brings it BACK to their minds."

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Question ?

by Big Jim in

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if getting babtised is just an act you do to let people know you have dedicated your life to jehovah and you are serving him, then isn't getting married also a public display that you have decided to bond with this person and you want all to know.. so the question is why is it considered fornication if you have sex with this person before your actual marriage ceremonies?

kes152

Hi Big Jim,

First... Baptism was not designed for that purpose. The purpose of getting baptized is because you want forgiveness of your sins and you wish to recieve the free gift of holy spirit.

Acts 2:38

Jesus' baptism was for the purpose of recieving holy spirit and carrying out the last portion of his 'work' God assigned him. (For he was dedicated since birth)

JWs baptize you to identify you as one of them and that you guarantee them your 'association' with their spirit directed organization. Something that never appears in the scriptures.

Matthew 28:19

Second ... the Greek word for "fornication" is 'por'neia.' In the dictionary ... 'fornicate' is defined as "fornicari" ... "to consort with prostitutes." It gives another definiton "brothel" which means "house of harlots, house of prostitution."

The word 'pornography' breaks down to 'porne' + 'graphos' which is "harlot + writings."

"Fornication" is therefore defined as 'works of prostitution' or 'consorting with prostitutes.

Sex before marriage would not necessarily be considered an "act of prostitution." For prostitutes have intercourse for the purpose of recreation, money, and satisfaction.

The Mother of the Harlots is called a "Harlot" because she commits "fornication" or 'prostituion' with the kings of the earth.

Peace to you,
Aaron

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Organised Religion

by aud8 in

if none of you believe in organised religion then who is the "faithful and discreet slave" mentioned in the bible?

kes152

aud8 has left the building??

peace to all,
Aaron

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I'm a Christian

by Erin4Christ in

i can't believe you people!

how can you brainwash so many people into believing this crap?!?

if you'd like to try explaining to me what you believe, please email me because i'm only gonna come back here to tell people the truth!.

kes152

My dear sister/brother Searain,

"If someone is interested in my beliefs, I invite them to my church. "

Although you are "correct" in inviting them to your church to understand YOUR beliefs, shouldn't your PEROGATIVE be to invite them to the Lord? Then let the Lord TEACH them "all things" so that they don't need YOU or the church to be teaching them ANYTHING?

1 John 2:27

At Pentacost ..... Peter did not "invite people to the church" but rather, he EXHORTED them to get baptized SO THEY CAN RECIEVE HOLY SPIRIT and thus recieve Christ HIMSELF. He let Christ "teach them ALL things" so that they will not need Peter to be "teaching them" anything.

Leading people to a "church" is not leading people to Christ, but a "church." Jesus never told us to lead people to any church nor "his church." He said "Come to ME" "Listen to MY voice."

Quit "searching the scriptures" (like Jesus told you) that bear witness ABOUT Christ, and GO TO the REAL thing, Christ.

John 5:39, 40

Peace,
Aaron