Hi fortis and welcome to the board.
I really admire the strength you had when your family guilt tripped you into staying. Stay strong!
i have lurked here literally for years and, finally, i got up the nerve to say hello 'officially' so, hello!.
i left the borg in '97, i'm the youngest in my family of all dubs.
i was pretty much born-in as i believe i was around 2yrs old when my parents began their transition from independent thinkers to borgs.
Hi fortis and welcome to the board.
I really admire the strength you had when your family guilt tripped you into staying. Stay strong!
Hello and welcome to the board.
iam just sounding aloud hi or hello to you all.
you are all great newbies and oldies.
bests,.
Hello (^_^) /)
for those who were in or still are.. when do/did you begin counting time?
as you left for the house group, or after the meeting was over?
did you count the car trip to and from?
I used to count time like this: 10-12, as 2 hours
Then, Sister Nosy saw my time slip and asked how I counted my time. I explained it to her just like from above. She told how I should be honest with the time counted and that "Jehovah sees and knows everything."
So then I started counting time when I knock on the door, place something with people or tried to. Travel time not included.
I started writing letters to make up for the time lost; but apparently that wasn't good enough. Since I'm doing the letter writing by myself it was not considered "real service" because it wasn't the same as D2D or street witnessing. Those two ways are the ones that I hate most, because I'm socially awkward, extremely shy, and have trouble talking to strangers. Plus I have no transportation to the Hall except walking 2 miles.
Later I couldn't count coffee and bathroom breaks.
Then "official field service time" ended once I leave the door of the home.
Eventually, I had to count time by the minutes with the stop watch feature on my phone. The only time I'm allowed to count is D2D and street witnessing with a partner. At the end of the month, all the minutes would be added up and divided by 60. (ex. 120 minutes/60 = 2 hours)
By using this method, my hours got cut from 10 to 3 hours per month...even if I go out to service on every weekend of that month! Of course I got hounded for the low hours even during field service.
Extra: Did you get hounded to turn your report in, did an elder call your home asking you for your time?
Sometimes they remind everyone to turn in their reports as part of the announcements. The elders did call my home several times for my time. All those times I could have sworn I put my time slip in the box. Maybe I forgot to put my name on it.
just wondering...if there aren't, i'll be sad....
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(a little background info before i ask my question...).
my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!
she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).
They may not tip big, but I've never heard of any JW's "dine and dash."
i was just reading of a dude who is going back to the matrix.... to save his wife?
to meet a wife?
to divorce scripturally his wife?
i want free books and magazines to fix wobbly tables and chairs
prayer topics seem to be the bandwagon of the moment so i'm jumping on!
seriously, has anyone here asked for something specific in prayer and actually gotten what they asked for?
what convinces you that you wouldn't have got it in any case?
Yes - maybe once
No - over 9000 times
The one time that prayer worked for me was when my cousin was born. He was born premature and had to be on an incubator. It made my aunt cry thinking that her son might grow up to have some health problem. So I prayed several times for my cousin to recover. Months later, I see him healthy and eating.
Fast forward to his 8th birthday party, my cousin is still healthy.
No brain disabilities, he was able to play the piano in front of his friends and family. No digestion problems, he was able to eat his icecream birthday cake and more food. No vision and hearing problems, he can watch tv and play video games. No breathing problems, he can run around and play with his friends for hours. In short, he turned out pretty well and I hope it stays that way.
The prayers might have been a lucky coincidence. Then again, the doctors never said it was impossible.
Yes, this religion...
tl;dr : I was very depressed as a JW. When I was A JW, a lady from my old work place once told me that I looked very sad and wondered why I never smiled. Ever since I stopped going to everything and cutted ties, I started to recover.
theres a scripture much touted by the jw's, goes somthing like " who has not lost brothers, sisters etc and not got tons more etc" ... no i ain't going to bother to look it up.. this was always offered as a great compensation for upsetting your family with your extreme jw beliefs.
but i never found it to be true.
yeah you went to the meetings and your so called spritual family was there.
I did, because they were my only source of support at that time. I was starting high school and had no friends and got bullied a lot. It didn't help that I had a dysfunctional family either. I never went to the counselor's office and avoided telling others about my problems. It was because I was afraid of getting my parents involved, being kicked out of the house, and the wrath of certain relatives.
I noticed that younger people studying would get lots of attention at the meetings and if a person fitted into an existing group then they swiftly developed a social life
What nugget typed is so true, I remember being "love atmoic bombed" even though I was mildly interested. Sisters were giving me presents and bags of second hand clothes. I had 4 spiritual mothers who looked after me. The young people group invited me to places and gatherings. No matter how simple my comment was, I got praised for it. There was always a someone willing to give me a ride to the meetings, service, and to my house. I was assigned to a lot of householder parts for the school. Being around the witnesses at the love bombing phase felt so much better than being at home and school.
Of course, this all disappeared after I got baptized and became part of the R&F / college student instead of a pioneer.
Then one of the "in crowd" sisters managed get a Bible study and her young children to attend the Kingdom Hall. Instantly, they're love bombed and become celebrities in the congregation.
There were older Bible studies who attended, but they usually don't attract as much attention as the younger Bible studies. It was pretty sad watching them sit alone with only their Bible teachers and a few would go up and say hi to them.