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  Here's To Fanatics And Raising The Bar

  by exwhyzee in

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  a fanatic is a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal for something.

  they take an activity,interest or belief and go beyond what would be considered normal or necessary by the majority of people.. .

  having grown up as a jw and now having been away from it a few years, i better see how accustomed i had become to being involved with an organization run by fanatics of the religious variety.

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  While I was still fully indoctrinated, super loyal and energized, I would arrive back at the hotel after a day at a district convention feelling completely beat down, knowing there was no way I could ever measure up to that parade of super fine dubs I just saw on the platform. I knew I could never keep pace with the things they were encouraging us to do - ever more so as the day draws near.

  It would take a couple of weeks after the convention to settle down and get comfortable in my routine again before I was able to compartmentalize all that "encouragement" and realize I was doing my best. I would just have to accept the fact that my best would always be on the low side of the curve no matter how hard I tried.
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  Do You Ever Give Thought To A "Great Tribulation"?

  by minimus in

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  my mother asked me if i was thinking about it and how bad it will be in the near future.

  i said i didn't give it a thought.. is it something you ever think about, now?.

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  The bible mentions it so I am curious about it. But no longer obsessed with it or in the least bit fearful.
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  I want us all to take a step back and BREATHE!

  by NoRegrets in

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  ok gang, i love each and every one of you.

  but, it's time to move it along.

  obviously, the aawa blew up before they left the launching pad, but it's over and done.

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  I can see a future Watchtower article talking about how Jehovah frustrated the plans of opposers and threw the entire apostate community into confusion when they tried to organize against God's one true organization.
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  My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  2. beliefs

  hi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.

  i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.

  i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.

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  I have often fantasized about handling my exit differently but in the end, my quiet, undisturbed exit was best, demonstrating my ability to be peaceable. I have learned from reading many examples here on JWN that arguing with the company men would have served no beneficial purpose and would have only riled me up.

  You're not losing everything. You've been a solid source of Christian encouragement right here. I've enjoyed reading your posts and hope you continue on for a long time.
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  Commitee and disfellowshipment

  by Freeof1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have only posted on here several times, but i am constantly reading what others post.

  i guess i am more of a reader than author.

  that being said i am happy to announce i am no longer one of the jehovah's witnesses.

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  Freeof1914: I WAS BEING DISFELLOWSHIPPED BECAUSE OF THE DOUBTS

  What happened to leaving the other ninety-nine behind and going out to find the lost sheep?

  The outcome will ultimately work in your favor anyway.

  Congratulations!
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  The United Nations will attack Christendom

  by Doug Mason in

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  2. bible

  this is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .

  the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.

  they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .

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  EntirelyPossible: In the US, the most militant of the religious are ALSO the most militant gun owners and make no bones about taking up arms to defend their faith.

  I can confirm this. I'm also a southern dweller (but NOT a southernER) and I once heard a good 'ole boy Baptist minister make the comment, "Let 'em try!", when discussing the WTS version of the destruction of Babylon the Great.

  But I can also see how even an attempt to stomp out all religion could ignite "The Great Tribulation."

  Doug Mason: Does this mean that in the UN they would vote for and implement tanks rolling out on themselves, for bombs to be dropped on their own countries, to sink their own ships and so on?

  I doubt it. I never pictured it happening that way. But I can see these member states voting in favor of some policy to essentially step on religion. I'm not as familiar with the political moods in France and England, but I can see how a couple more Obama-esque administrations could result in a UN ambassador being given the go-ahead to support such a thing. Given the shift away from religion in the U.S. and even more so in Europe, I can see the majority of the population supporting it as well.
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  Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity

  by irondork in

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  with the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.

  in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.

  wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?

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  Unconfused: Still wondering what is the new light in the July 15th WT

  ADCMS: The GB was going to minimize all anointed ones to a role of unimportant and non-essential while simultaneously increasing the GB's power and position. The 7-15-13 WT confirms this.
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  Good time for R&F to preemptively question GB validity

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
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  with the new light in the july 15 watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are.

  in light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?.

  wouldn't now be a good time to put the july 15 watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy?

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  With the new light in the July 15 Watchtower, now might be the perfect time for rank and file members to question wether or not the big boys are who they say they are. In light of the fact that the men who claim to be the sole channel of communication for all mankind could not even grasp their own identity for the last 100 years, wouldn't now be a good time to turn the tables on the elders who are so quick to drag a questioning Dub to the back room and demand loyalty to the governing body?

  Wouldn't now be a good time to put the July 15 Watchtower in the middle of the table and ask to see the credentials on these men without fear of being suspected of apostacy? The WT itself opened the dialog. The new light places the validity of the governing body on the table for discussion. A thinking JW could ask some pretty uncomfortable questions right now that he or she may never be able to get away with under normal circumstances.

  Dub: If they've been wrong all this time, how can we trust their "channel" claims now?

  Elder: Don't you believe God is using the governing body to lead his earthly organization?

  Dub: I asked first.
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  How to identify Publishers who know TTATT

  by His Excellency in

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  since coming to know ttatt, i have always wondered if there are others in the congregation who also share similar experience with me, are there pointers to identifying others who are also faking meeting attendance and fs activities..

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  LOL @ Wasblind
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  Oddity On Mars

  by metatron in

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  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread939693/pg1.

  weird.

  i have no idea what this is.

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  Portents in the heavens.

  You KNOW what this means.