today i received a visit from 2 elders.
it was the first contact i've had with them sinced i've stopped going out in service or attending the meetings after the 2010 dc in june.
i opened the door without inviting them in despite the cold weather.
Sounds like you managed that well. . .
It brings back memories. . .when my jw ladies were trying to get me to attend meetings and conventions the phrase "help me" was used a lot. As in "We're trying to help you to see . . "
We are very polite with each other and careful not to hurt feelings, but inside I was almost choking on the arrogance of their presuming to know I needed their "help".
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this isnt the first time i have posted about problems with one or more of my sisters.
but i need resolve:.
i am disassociated, and have been free for over 25 years.
Hi Crimsonbleu,
Bit late to this thread, but I have "sister issues" too.
All the practical advice is good, but I also understand that (like me) the emotional issues are most important. Like how to live with someone's bad behaviour without poisoning yourself with hatred, and also without passively putting up with the mean stuff.
I think Tec said it best. We know our sisters well, like it or not, and often have the background to understand where they are coming from. In my case I have an "angry all the time" sister, who is trying to project her self-dislike outward, and a "know it all" who is modelling our controlling father's behaviour. When I reflect on my own issues from our childhood and remember my own poor comunication to the family, I can see past the behaviour and through to the women who are doing the best they can. Then I can let go of the outrage at the latest bit of meanness, and respond with a bit more logic and less temper.
Thanks for this thread; I needed to remind myself.
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i am three-quarters through the book, the time paradox: the new psychology of time that will change your lifeby philip zimbardo and john boyd.
it is taking longer than usual because i am earnestly applying the exercises as they appear in the book.
which means i have to be ready to change my habits...but enough about me.. zimbardo's argument throughout the book is that a person's time perspective deeply impacts their choices and their ability to be happy.
That's it White Dove! If it gives me a bit of pleasure here and now, it's a win-win!
i am three-quarters through the book, the time paradox: the new psychology of time that will change your lifeby philip zimbardo and john boyd.
it is taking longer than usual because i am earnestly applying the exercises as they appear in the book.
which means i have to be ready to change my habits...but enough about me.. zimbardo's argument throughout the book is that a person's time perspective deeply impacts their choices and their ability to be happy.
I believe that that something of me will live on after death, and that includes awareness. I've nothing that could be called proof or evidence, but choose to believe this way.
If I'm wrong, at least no-one will be able to say "I told you so!"
my dad ticked me off the other night, to the point i had to hang up.
i didn't abruptly hang up, but rather i told him i had company.
we were discussing a sister at my hall who did something years ago.
Jeckle, sorry for all you had to put up with! I'm not a jw, but as a single parent the best way to get me going was to disapprove of my kids or treat them unfairly.
You'd think basic decency would prevent this happening, but not always. . .in and out of the jws. . .
ok i was just blown away when i heard this today while driving, at first i thought it was the some old same old but then it went on and it seems like it is on a different level.. the subheading is "guard your heart by exercising self-control.
on page 27 par 17 it says "one way a person could wonder into the foolish course of the "young man in want of heart" is by aimlessly flipping though television channels or surfing the internet.
whether intentionally or not, he might chance upon sexually stimulating scenes.
Yes, of course it's not about sex or porn, but those are the exact subjects my jw ladies raise whenever sin gets into the conversation.
So anything associated with them, however dishonestly, has a stop sign on it.
So the internet is a danger area and internet access at home is a peril. Even though they didn't actually say so!!
Manipulative bastardos!!
ok i was just blown away when i heard this today while driving, at first i thought it was the some old same old but then it went on and it seems like it is on a different level.. the subheading is "guard your heart by exercising self-control.
on page 27 par 17 it says "one way a person could wonder into the foolish course of the "young man in want of heart" is by aimlessly flipping though television channels or surfing the internet.
whether intentionally or not, he might chance upon sexually stimulating scenes.
Yeah, call me slow but I finally get it.
The study wt associates the internet with porn as a scare tactic. Even then they won't be up-front and suggest doing without, but indicate it with that sleazy assertion that "some" choose not to have the internet at home.
The context suggests that those who do are weak in faith and very likely surfing porn. So a believer must now be suspicious if a partner or teenager insists in having internet available. A lot of family arguments and angst follow, courtesy of the wt.
HOW DARE THEY manipulate people this way???
hey what's up everone?
i'm new to here.
it took a while for me to get this hard feelings out of my system....yup....i'm 18 and i'm on my last year of high school...this year i'm taking it online i don't mind it's ok..i do miss the people at school..as u know my parents r jw and i'm one too...i am very active and i do it all for my parents and to avoid confllict but recenlty i just don't like some of bans no what u can and can't do...i'm behind on school beacuse i reg pio...i'm a active person...i really want to leave this reglion beacuse one i can't visit my family grandparents and cousins in europe beacuse they "worldly"....this for me is bs...so stupid....it's my family... if i do leave the jw it's not like i'm going to do drugs and drink or smoke...my goals r to be in the olympics and to start snowboard cross...i'm going to join a snowboard club next season....i don't care anymore about what people think...it's not like i'm doing something bad..it's something that will bring me joy....today my mom was questioning me like crazy about my new jw friend that i ski with....there was a friend of a friend last year that i hang out once with he was a so called good exmaple but he quit the jw and started drinking and smoking so...yup he's dumb...now my mom is like questioning every i associate with..i hardly have any friends and my life sucks..i want to make it better by snowboard more...i'm allowed to go every secound day as long as i prepair for the crappy propangda meetings....ya...support is hard when my parents don't support my dreams but when i do get in the olympics u have only myself to thank beacuse every time i pratice i have bad snowboard days and good i feel like crying at the mountain my heart breaks i want to be faster and better...i want to be the best.. i told my mom i want to be the best snowboarder out there for snowboard cross and she was like humble yourself and all this jw crap...i just don't know how to put it into words.....it's like a backworkd train...i tried to a last attemt at this jw by trying to join a foriegn group...but it failed bad and that was like the straw that broke my back...years of holding my back of trainnign and being active is making me to go crazy ....it's hard i'm just trying to get my pain out when u fall on your snowborad u have to encorage your self u have to train your self u have to push yourself..i wish i could start life all over agian...the war in my country runid a large part and now this....when ur younger u don't know better and this relgion seems good but when u age and watch the olympics like i do and then watch it live...i got a job at the vanoc thing so i was there...it's a different experience to race ....my country did not do so well and i wish i could represent them and get a gold medal....u know it would make my life better....and bring hope to tons of people facing the same story as me....i was a jw from when i was 10 so i kindof miss chirstmas and holidays but i don't care anymore.....my dad came home talk latter.
Welcome, Snowboarder!
I hope your dreams come true. My son is a snowboarder too, but not as good as you must be!
You are close to being an adult, so whatever life brings you, don't let anyone else make your choices for you.
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ok i was just blown away when i heard this today while driving, at first i thought it was the some old same old but then it went on and it seems like it is on a different level.. the subheading is "guard your heart by exercising self-control.
on page 27 par 17 it says "one way a person could wonder into the foolish course of the "young man in want of heart" is by aimlessly flipping though television channels or surfing the internet.
whether intentionally or not, he might chance upon sexually stimulating scenes.
Other have decided not to have access to the Internet."
This is as credible as the untrained Ethiopian girl offered 3000 Euros a month story. How people must need to believe to swallow this stuff!
the wts informs its followers that they are not: "under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it.
" (insight on the scriptures volume ii p. 245).
"for the purpose of protecting the interests of god's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from gods enemies... this comes under the term war strategy.
Spade
Intervention for Child Custody Cases was only deemed necessary in instances where Jehovah's Witnesses religion has been under attack during child custody cases
If you have any basis for this unsupported assertion, please present it. If one parent did not want the children of the marriage to be raised exclusively in the wt, would that be an attack on the religion?
In any case, "intervention" is one thing, and lying is another. Omitting some part of what is true and relevant, or conveying a false impression, these are not interventions, but lies.
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