Echoes the ARC conclusions almost word-for-word.
“…They seem to have just given it more publicity…”
Clearly, they’ve never heard of the Streisand Effect. 😏
Posts by Vidiot
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2New Zealand Report Link
by Slidin Fast inthe full report is here.. https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/.
the jw case study is here.. https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/reports/whanaketia/case-studies/case-study-jehovahs-witnesses/executive-summary/.
you can read it in full from these links.
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Vidiot
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GB making their exit before the GT??
by stephenlettclownface indid i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
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Biahi - “When the GB disappears, we need to keep a sharp eye on either the Cayman Islands, or countries with no extradition to the US.”
This.
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GB making their exit before the GT??
by stephenlettclownface indid i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
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Vidiot
Of course they’ll be
rapturedtaken away to heaven before the shit hits the fan.How else are Top-Shelf Tony and Letto the Clown gonna exact their righteous fury against all the “apostates” who dared to think they might be weird, crazy, or just plain wrong?
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Article - New Zealand: Jehovah's Witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
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Vidiot
You gotta wonder…
…just how damning are the conclusions?
(rhetorical question, obv)
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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Apostates are still public enemy number one - WATCHTOWER August 2024
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/rqyqibpnuos?si=zayoa2c-zvmj9_br.
under the theme "help for those who are removed from the congregation" study article 35 in august 2024 wafchtower that deals with the many changes the organization introduced recenly we specifically look into paragraphs 14 and 15 that deal with the way that we now treat disfellowshipped ones, or more accurately removed ones , since this is the new term.
and see how they still try to micromanage their members down to the finest detail and how still apostates and more accurately active apostates are public enemy number one.
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Vidiot
Personally, I suspect be the dialed-up-to-eleven demonization of XJWs might just backfire on them.
Case in point?
The Religious Right’s increasingly over-the-top freakout about civil rights for gay folks a couple decades back, and just how disturbingly similar it was to their predecessors’ objections towards people of color.
It got so fucking toxic, their own kids recognized it for what it really was…
…bigotry…
…and rejected it so hard that same-sex marriage is barely blinked at nowadays, and discrimination against gay people is ranked right up there with blatant racism.
I can see this happening with newer (potential) generations of JWs too, particularly if any happen to personally know the odd “apostate” who’s definitely not a raging anti-Watchtower psychopath.
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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Vidiot
I don’t think they’d find it too difficult, actually.
It’d definitely be preferable to hanging around and actually facing the humiliations of further decline, increased legal losses, and insolvency (and make no mistake, they would absolutely find those things humiliating).
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Would Watchtower Actually Murder Members Who Question the F&DS If They Could?
by Sea Breeze inimagine if the watchtower had their own country where they could do what they wanted.
do you think they would actually kill people who disagreed with them?
would the elders be willing to carry out the executions?what say you?.
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Vidiot
Touchofgrey - “Imagine if any fundamentalist religion had there own country…?”
Don’t need to imagine.
Iran. Afghanistan. North Korea.
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Would Watchtower Actually Murder Members Who Question the F&DS If They Could?
by Sea Breeze inimagine if the watchtower had their own country where they could do what they wanted.
do you think they would actually kill people who disagreed with them?
would the elders be willing to carry out the executions?what say you?.
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Vidiot
What Beth said, previous page.
In the olden days, banishment was - for all intents and purposes - a death sentence.
Just not a violent one.
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Mass formation control and the Organization
by truthseeker inmass formation control.
most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.
examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.
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Vidiot
The in-house crew more-or-less works for free.
The outsourced one? Who the fuck knows?