ok i just want to officially set the record straight about the report of csa in new zealand.
i have a pimo relative who lives in nz.
as far as public awareness, with regard to the jws, it was basically a big nothing burger.
Biagi - “…perhaps if Josh Shapiro becomes the VP, more attention will be drawn to JWs. He was the AG of PA, who got the ball rolling regarding the coverups of CSA among the JWs…”
That’s gotta feel conflicting for the Trump supporters out there who nevertheless have a CSA-bone to pick with the Org.
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co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.
today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.
it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.
When I was growing up, my Dad was proud to be part of a “Worldwide Body of True Christians”. He and my Mom were loyal JWs, but my mom was educated, and they sent me to college.
When I started hearing more and more anti-education rhetoric from the platform throughout the 90s, however, it got to the point where I’d say to myself, “if they keep this up, they’re gonna and up with a ‘Worldwide Body’ of morons…”
ok i just want to officially set the record straight about the report of csa in new zealand.
i have a pimo relative who lives in nz.
as far as public awareness, with regard to the jws, it was basically a big nothing burger.
I don’t think this kind of thing is having a “non-effect”.
How often to we hear about new recruits, after all?
'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
NotFormer - “…Jaracz made it so.”
I seem to recall Barb Anderson once suggesting a long time ago that Ted Jaracz had essentially doomed the Organization, but there was no follow-up elaboration (that I caught, anyway).
As a result, I couldn’t fully grasp what she was getting at at the time, but it’s pretty obvious now.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
careful - “…are the GB so hell bent on keeping all this stuff hidden just to save face among non-Witnesses…?”
Yes, but not for the reasons you might think.
They’re trying to salvage their public image because their charity status is increasingly at risk in more and more countries, and all indications are that the Org’s business model is dependent on the tax-exemption (or government handouts) that come with it.
TonusOH - “…they are also concerned with the rank-and-file hearing about it, because the WTS tells JWs that they are different from other religions, in that they protect young ones from abuse and make sure to deal severely with those who abuse children. If the truth is that they do neither of these things, then they are no different than the religious groups that they have condemned...”
This.
The moment a questioning rank-and-filer figures that out, they also realize that it’s not “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”…
…and any remaining incentive to stay goes out the window.
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
NotFormer - “…The most recent photo of them seated around a boardroom table is years old and seems to be Photoshopped on occasion to add/remove members…”
I know, right?
I used to scratch my head over that one… I mean, just how fucking hard is it to take a new group photo? 😄
Makes sense if they’re too paranoid to get together in one place at the same time, though… one unfortunate accent (or “accident”), and bam, the head of “God’s Earthly Organization” is gone (this is one of the reasons they left Brooklyn, BTW… 9-11 scared ‘em).
The Helpers and lawyers’d maybe try to keep the bailing buckets going, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
i am adverse to signing up for "newsletters", but since this particular story continues to pop up on google news for months under "jehovah", i thought i would share it with everyone.
people must be clicking on it.
'i was a jehovah's witness for 60 years, but gave it up for christ' - an interview with jim fielder.
Balaamsass2 - “Personally, I am surprised this particular elder became an Evangelical Christian. Once you start questioning Watchtower and start going down the logic rabbit hole and asking basic questions, most ex-jws go much, much further…”
Agreed…
…by the time most of us are out, we’ve had enough of that sort of thing.
Still…
…no matter which way you go, you’re still probably trading up, so there’s that.
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if anyone knows more, a comment is welcome.
if you visit the official jw website and search for bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video.
the site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving.
DesirousOfChange- “…They know they are under attack, but they foolishly believe that it is in fulfillment of their ridiculous interpretation of scripture where their God will swoop in and rescue them and then destroy their persecutors…”
If the WTS is “under attack”, they’ve brought it on themselves. A self-fulfilling “prophecy” ain’t the real thing.
And it’s ironic AF, considering that very same scripturual interpretation of theirs has “Babylon the Great” attacked first.
They even reiterated this on JW-dot-org just last month.
a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
“I’m with the Branch Jehovians”.
a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
“One of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and “a Jehovah’s Witness” are both considered acceptable, but the first is technically more correct from a grammatical POV… my mom was a teacher, so she preferred that one.
