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  Article - New Zealand: Jehovah's Witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.

  july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.

  jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .

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  Vidiot

  You gotta wonder…

  …just how damning are the conclusions?

  (rhetorical question, obv)
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  What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

  by Starlight.vee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

  how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

  there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

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  Vidiot

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2CeDY9Ywhs
  
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  Apostates are still public enemy number one - WATCHTOWER August 2024

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/rqyqibpnuos?si=zayoa2c-zvmj9_br.

  under the theme "help for those who are removed from the congregation" study article 35 in august 2024 wafchtower that deals with the many changes the organization introduced recenly we specifically look into paragraphs 14 and 15 that deal with the way that we now treat disfellowshipped ones, or more accurately removed ones , since this is the new term.

  and see how they still try to micromanage their members down to the finest detail and how still apostates and more accurately active apostates are public enemy number one.

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  Vidiot

  Personally, I suspect be the dialed-up-to-eleven demonization of XJWs might just backfire on them.

  Case in point?

  The Religious Right’s increasingly over-the-top freakout about civil rights for gay folks a couple decades back, and just how disturbingly similar it was to their predecessors’ objections towards people of color.

  It got so fucking toxic, their own kids recognized it for what it really was…

  …bigotry…

  …and rejected it so hard that same-sex marriage is barely blinked at nowadays, and discrimination against gay people is ranked right up there with blatant racism.

  I can see this happening with newer (potential) generations of JWs too, particularly if any happen to personally know the odd “apostate” who’s definitely not a raging anti-Watchtower psychopath.
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  What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

  by Starlight.vee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

  how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

  there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

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  Vidiot

  I don’t think they’d find it too difficult, actually.

  It’d definitely be preferable to hanging around and actually facing the humiliations of further decline, increased legal losses, and insolvency (and make no mistake, they would absolutely find those things humiliating).
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  Would Watchtower Actually Murder Members Who Question the F&DS If They Could?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine if the watchtower had their own country where they could do what they wanted.

  do you think they would actually kill people who disagreed with them?

  would the elders be willing to carry out the executions?what say you?.

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  Vidiot

  Touchofgrey - “Imagine if any fundamentalist religion had there own country…?”

  Don’t need to imagine.

  Iran. Afghanistan. North Korea.
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  Would Watchtower Actually Murder Members Who Question the F&DS If They Could?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine if the watchtower had their own country where they could do what they wanted.

  do you think they would actually kill people who disagreed with them?

  would the elders be willing to carry out the executions?what say you?.

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  Vidiot

  What Beth said, previous page.

  In the olden days, banishment was - for all intents and purposes - a death sentence.

  Just not a violent one.
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  Mass formation control and the Organization

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mass formation control.

  most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.

  examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.

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  Vidiot

  The in-house crew more-or-less works for free.

  The outsourced one? Who the fuck knows?
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  Mass formation control and the Organization

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mass formation control.

  most of the changes in the organization have been doctrinal and as a rule jws would not openly discuss these for fear of being labeled an apostate.

  examples include overlapping generations and types and antitypes.

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  Vidiot

  “Whack-a-mole”… damn, I wish I’d thought of that one. 😄
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  No need for Judicial Committees now!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for jw's who sin, just listen, obey, & be blessed by the current "slave's" direction from a few years ago.. after all, they do speak for jehovah & christ, don't they?

  no need to to confess anything to elders.. w00 6/15 pp.

  16-17 pars.

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  Vidiot

  They’re making it harder and harder to disfellowship remove wayward members adherents for two reasons…

  a) …the courts are able to effectively demonstrate just how truly injurious and heavy-handed it is to individuals, and as such, it’s putting their charity status at serious risk, and…

  b) …the longer a disfellowshipped removed individual remains out (or, rather, the more heavy-handed the discipline has been), the less afraid they’ll be to start looking at “apostate” material on the Net, and the less likely they are to ever come back.

  The Org can no longer afford either.
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  What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

  by Starlight.vee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

  how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

  there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

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  Vidiot

  Makes you wonder if Uncle Tony’s complete vanishment off the face of the planet (admittedly very effective, credit where credit’s due) is some kind of beta-test for that very contingency.

  😏