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  Setting the record straight. CSA report in New Zealand

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ok i just want to officially set the record straight about the report of csa in new zealand.

  i have a pimo relative who lives in nz.

  as far as public awareness, with regard to the jws, it was basically a big nothing burger.

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  I don’t think this kind of thing is having a “non-effect”.

  How often to we hear about new recruits, after all?
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  Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?

  by was a new boy in

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  2. child-abuse

  'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.

  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.

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  NotFormer - “…Jaracz made it so.”

  I seem to recall Barb Anderson once suggesting a long time ago that Ted Jaracz had essentially doomed the Organization, but there was no follow-up elaboration (that I caught, anyway).

  As a result, I couldn’t fully grasp what she was getting at at the time, but it’s pretty obvious now.
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  Article - New Zealand: Jehovah's Witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.

  july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.

  jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .

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  careful - “…are the GB so hell bent on keeping all this stuff hidden just to save face among non-Witnesses…?”

  Yes, but not for the reasons you might think.

  They’re trying to salvage their public image because their charity status is increasingly at risk in more and more countries, and all indications are that the Org’s business model is dependent on the tax-exemption (or government handouts) that come with it.

  TonusOH - “…they are also concerned with the rank-and-file hearing about it, because the WTS tells JWs that they are different from other religions, in that they protect young ones from abuse and make sure to deal severely with those who abuse children. If the truth is that they do neither of these things, then they are no different than the religious groups that they have condemned...”

  This.

  The moment a questioning rank-and-filer figures that out, they also realize that it’s not “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”…

  …and any remaining incentive to stay goes out the window.
  
  
  
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  GB making their exit before the GT??

  by stephenlettclownface in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.

  did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.

  if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.

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  NotFormer - “…The most recent photo of them seated around a boardroom table is years old and seems to be Photoshopped on occasion to add/remove members…”

  I know, right?

  I used to scratch my head over that one… I mean, just how fucking hard is it to take a new group photo? 😄

  Makes sense if they’re too paranoid to get together in one place at the same time, though… one unfortunate accent (or “accident”), and bam, the head of “God’s Earthly Organization” is gone (this is one of the reasons they left Brooklyn, BTW… 9-11 scared ‘em).

  The Helpers and lawyers’d maybe try to keep the bailing buckets going, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
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  Story of EX-Jehovah's Witness Elder continues to rank high on Google news for 8 months

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am adverse to signing up for "newsletters", but since this particular story continues to pop up on google news for months under "jehovah", i thought i would share it with everyone.

  people must be clicking on it.

  'i was a jehovah's witness for 60 years, but gave it up for christ' - an interview with jim fielder.

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  Balaamsass2 - “Personally, I am surprised this particular elder became an Evangelical Christian. Once you start questioning Watchtower and start going down the logic rabbit hole and asking basic questions, most ex-jws go much, much further…”

  Agreed…

  …by the time most of us are out, we’ve had enough of that sort of thing.

  Still…

  …no matter which way you go, you’re still probably trading up, so there’s that.

  😏
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  Have 3 buildings disappeared from the new Italian Bethel under construction since 2019? What happened to them?

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if anyone knows more, a comment is welcome.

  if you visit the official jw website and search for bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video.

  the site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving.

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  DesirousOfChange- “…They know they are under attack, but they foolishly believe that it is in fulfillment of their ridiculous interpretation of scripture where their God will swoop in and rescue them and then destroy their persecutors…”

  If the WTS is “under attack”, they’ve brought it on themselves. A self-fulfilling “prophecy” ain’t the real thing.

  And it’s ironic AF, considering that very same scripturual interpretation of theirs has “Babylon the Great” attacked first.

  They even reiterated this on JW-dot-org just last month.
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  “I’m with the Branch Jehovians”.
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  Vidiot

  “One of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and “a Jehovah’s Witness” are both considered acceptable, but the first is technically more correct from a grammatical POV… my mom was a teacher, so she preferred that one.
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  Deadpool 3

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, it’s gonna be a marvel studios production.. i’m holding out for the following titles:.

  ”deadpool: agent of shield”.

  ”deadpool v spider-man: dawn of bromance”.

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  Vidiot

  Nope.

  The “Sacred Timeline”… i.e. Earth-616 (or 19999, depending on who you ask) is only seen once and barely mentioned after.

  Almost all the action takes place in the TVA, the Void, and Earth-10005 (a.k.a. the XCU), which Wade and Logan’s actions basically save from extinction…

  …essentially confirming it’s continued existence in parallel to the MCU.

  Seriously.

  The new prevailing theory on the Net (based on the events in this movie and things Kevin Feige has said) is that a significant multiversal incursion between the MCU and the XCU is what Avengers: Secret Wars will be focused around.

  Oh, wait…

  …were you asking if the D&W movie’s success is saving Marvel Studios?

  If so, then yes.

  Yes, it has.

  🤪
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  Are the Dubs going back to the KH again? (Covid-19)

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any takers?

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  LHG - “…what I get from this guy is that they want to keep whatever members they have online…”

  Hmm, okay.

  It would jive with what Barb Anderson’s said a couple times.

  If the WTS’s lawyers have advised them that the rising CSA tide is gonna lose them their charity status sooner rather than later in more and more countries, they’ll have also advised ‘em that they won’t wanna be caught holding the bag on all that KH real estate everywhere.

  I used to think that the WT leadership (notice I rarely even bother crediting the GB with that distinction, anymore) wanted the PIMOs to all bugger off…

  …but COVID’s Zoom-in-tune-out-and-fade and the recent convention numbers suggest there were/are way more than anyone thought.

  For a church that used growth and attendance as their benchmark for success/divine approval, it had to have been alarming, and I would’ve thought it’d make them wanna pump the brakes on that kind of reform (remember, reactive, not proactive)…

  …but rather, what if that was enough to convince them to stay the course, instead? That going almost exclusively online was, in fact, the only way to stay solvent in the face of decline, rather than backpedaling?

  Maybe even to the point where they’re already so committed to that course of action that they can’t actually back out, now.