I didn't go to college to obey the FDS but I was offered a job at Bethel...I guess I didn't have enough education!
Posts by NVR2L8
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32June Study WT Up and Bashing Uni Again
by konceptual99 inrehashed format but same ole' shite.. hypocritical article on viewing "weak" ones compassionately usign the example of a single mum arriving late yet the may km has a whole article on how rude it is not to be punctual.. read it and weep....
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What is the purpose of Field Service??
by quellycatface inthe so used to say it was life saving work.i wasn't convinced.it was soul destroying in the area i lived.i didn't want to be so cynical as to think, it was just to gain converts, therefore more money but it certainly looks that way now..
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NVR2L8
As long as publisher feel the preaching work is important they will keep on donating money to support the WT. The bulk of the WT income surely doesn't come from the field, but from publishers donating. The moment field service loses its importance what work will donations support? Why would anyone donate?
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One of the big reasons I left the JW Cult
by Still Totally ADD inhe would love to see you.
i would tell them please come out anyway he would just love to see you.
i saw the lack of love and could not believe it.
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NVR2L8
Will be apostate...conditional love isn't love! If someone does good because he expects something in return, this isn't love. As soon as he realizes he's not getting what he expected he will drop you as a hot potato. There was an elder in my congregation who hugged and kissed me at every meeting. Since I left 4 years ago I haven't seen or heard from him except for a lame attempt of a shepherding call. So STADD's experience doesn't surprises me and I'm so sorry that he and his wife went through this ordeal with no real support and genuine love from the congregation. Having a district convention is a lame excuse not to attend someone's funeral...unless the deceased means nothing to you.
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Went to SAD
by leaving_quietly inb.o.r.i.n.g.. same ol' stuff.
highlights:.
- reading the bible "must be more than an intellectual experience".
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NVR2L8
JWs are so lazy they need a book that does all the reasoning on the Scriptures for them!
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Who's visiting Las Vegas?
by Quarterback ini'm welcoming your trip tips, and want to know about fun things to do.. i'm staying at caesars.
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NVR2L8
18 visits to Vegas for me...Stayed at Caesar's 5 times, Mirage, TI, Rio, MGM, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Aladdin (now Planet Hollywood) and the old Stardust... Cirque du soleil "O" at the Bellagio and Love at the Mirage are amazing shows. Dinner at Mon ami Gabi with coffee and French pastries at la Belle Madeleine at the Paris Hotel...all of this within walking distance from Caesar's palace. The Palms in the forum shops has the best steaks.
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Ripped up my Public Talks
by konceptual99 injust been doing a clear out and found all my old public talk outlines and notes.
just ripped them up and threw them away.
felt really good.
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NVR2L8
I felt the same way when I dumped all my talks, notes from the CO MS/elders meetings and bound volumes in the trash when I moved into a new house. My believing wife attempted to stop me but I told her the old literature is now full of apostate teaching and lies which caused my falling out..
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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NVR2L8
Welcome Nomorepain.
How would you feel if someone would demand you dressed like him, like and eat the same food, watch the same movies, agree with everything he says whether he's right or wrong, never have a different opinion...before you can be his friend! You see JW indoctrination is exactly this: teaching you to conform before you can be a trusted "friend". This friendship is conditional to continuing to conform. I was a JW for 50 years and I stopped going to the KHall suddenly and I never received a phone call or even a visit by my best "friends" in the congregation. You see, they loved the JW I was and not the person NVR2L8 is. The morning after I decided to no longer attend meetings I was still the same caring person who lent them a hand fixing their cars, renovate their homes, played hockey or rode motorcycle with, lend some money to some of them...but that doesn't count anymore because I no longer fit the conditions to be their friend. So Nomorepain, I ask you...are these the type of friends you want? For the last few years I have made many new friends who care for me regardless of my religious beliefs or how I choose to live my life. I have lots of fun with them and none of it is immoral as the WT would like you to believe.You should seek that type of friends.
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Weekends Are Wonderful Since Leaving The Cult
by minimus inno silly meetings.
no wasting time knocking on doors, bothering people.....life is good..
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NVR2L8
Quick builts were a nice way to escape the congregation boring routine until RBC took over total control over of the projects and all the locals were left doing all the crappy jobs "skilled" tradesmen don't want to do.
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What is / was the first thing(s) you looked forward to doing once you were out for good?
by SecretHeart11 inone of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.
(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).
i soooo look forward to christmas.
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NVR2L8
For me it is the freedom to make decisions without having to check "God's" point of view on the matter or worry about what will the "brothers" think. I was at a large business convention last week and I enjoyed the freedom to join clients in a cigar and liquor lounge. As me most of my clients are non smokers but they smoked a cigar and sipped on cognac. It was the first time for me and I don't plan to pick up smoking...but it felt great to do what I wanted without feeling guilt. I no longer feel guilt for using Saturday morning to wash the car or to go for a mortorcycle ride. I'm sure we all felt bad for stealing time from Jehovah because we chose to take a day off instead of going to the meeting...this feeling is now replaced by the joy of discovering and experiencing activities I had no time for or that were forbidden for a Christian.
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Can god see into the future?
by DuvanMuvan inthis is something that's been bothering me for a while.. if god could see into the future, why has he allowed so many bad things to happen?
for example in the garden of eden.
he should have known from the beginning what would happen.if there was even the tiniest chance that they'd eat the fruit then god obviously didn't think it would be benefical to, idk, prevent it from happening?
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NVR2L8
Just to illustrate the WT quoted by Blondie: my dad can't predict the future but when I was young he expressed his concerns when I told him I was buying a motorcycle. He lovingly explained the risks of riding and how he didn't want me to go through the same pain he went through when he was involved in a trafic accident. Since I have free will he let me make the final decision. Now if dad was like God and knew for sure that I would crash, kill myself and to protect my free will he said nothing, could I still say that I have a loving dad?