DesirousOfChange

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  Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.

  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I found it interesting when I went to this link what the WTS said about 1975 in 1975, then 1976, then 1980. Quotes provided, not needed to link to Watchtower Online Library. https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php
  Go down to this heading:
  Post 1975 Print Edition Changes -- Blondie

  Thanks for posting that again Blondie!

  One cannot begin to estimate the countless hours Paul gave to the compilation of WT material. While likely nothing would change the deeply entrenched thinking of a diehard PIMI cult member, there can be no greater source of information for any JW who is facing the personal crisis of discovering TTATT and researching in earnest for the "real" truth. JWFacts is the ultimate "Red Pill".
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  DesirousOfChange

  This discussion board attracts all sorts of people; the only thing we have in common is an interest in Jehovah's Witnesses. Some are informative, clear-thinking individuals. Some are not, but open to contrary thoughts. And then there are 'the prophets' who promote all sorts of predictions and off the wall beliefs.

  
  The OP (and others like him) needs to take a deep breath and reevaluate his approach Bible prophecy.

  
  Honest, guys, God did not appoint you to be modern-day prophets. And as expositors, you fail. As an earlier comment said: "when these predictions do not lead to divine intervention and the establishment of god's kingdom, people will learn their lesson and stop making predictions will wait for the next 'time of distress' and make the same predictions all over again."

  
  Maybe see a counselor.

  Viv-- That has to be the best post you've made! Right on the mark! Especially the final thought.

  Doc
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  Have 3 buildings disappeared from the new Italian Bethel under construction since 2019? What happened to them?

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if anyone knows more, a comment is welcome.

  if you visit the official jw website and search for bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video.

  the site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Can you say DOWNSIZING?

  WTS is downsizing everywhere. They know they are under attack, but they foolishly believe that it is in fulfillment of their ridiculous interpretation of scripture where their God will swoop in and rescue them and then destroy their persecutors.

  And they will keep on wondering why there is no rescue.
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  Disfellowshipping and Excutions

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *w60 2/1 80 - 17 there may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.

  in the days of israel parents were instructed by jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death.

  there were no juvenile delinquents under such a system.

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  DesirousOfChange

  From this I understand that disfellowshipping that the person should be treated as if they were dead and continues that concept by saying thus a disfellowshipped person should not be spoken to or treated like they are live. I wonder if they still believe this.

  I'd say they still believe all that. However, Caesar has forced them to lie about it use Theocratic Warfare strategies so as to appear they have changed their policy toward anyone removed from or leaving their little Cult.
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses "Declare the Good News" around the World this week. JW Child abuse PAGE ONE on Google news!

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".

  former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.

  8:07 am on 27 july 2024".

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  DesirousOfChange

  A PIMO relative, who lives in New Zealand, mentioned to me that both in the papers ,and on the tv news stations, the Jehovah’s Witnesses didn’t even get mentioned.

  No one gives a shit about Jehovah's Witnesses. At 1/10th of 1% of the population, they just do not matter. (Just don't tell them! They'd be crushed!)
  
  
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  WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

  today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

  it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I have noticed on other social media sites that there is a general feeling even among Americans that Republicans want a non educated society.

  Factually, it is in the Democrat run cities that public schools have the highest drop out rates and lowest testing scores.
  
  
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  Relevant message on Reddit about current elders

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  read this relevant message on reddit, about current elders.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1eb0ees/the_changes_are_affecting_elders_the_hardest_in/.

  spot on, isn't it?.

  gorby.

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  DesirousOfChange

  One thing that elders are not aware of, and should be is personal civil and criminal liability for some of the harms that they do. Does the congregation offer you liability insurance in case of a lawsuit? Elders are being played by the watchtower corporation. -- Gorb

  Should some matter be mishandled enough to yield a lawsuit, I suppose the local elders can hope that the attorneys are really after the "deep pockets" of Watchtower. Attorneys are seeking to tap the big money -- bigger than the average JW has bankrolled (unless he is one of the few highroller JWs).
  
  
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  DesirousOfChange

  We arent witnesses of anyone because in the 21st century we haven't witnessed anything,

  
  

  No one has witnessed anything in the 20th Century either.

  Nor in the 19th Century.

  Noteworthy that since the Kingdom "establishment" in 1914 -- 110 yeas of nothing to see!
  
  
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  WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

  today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

  it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

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  DesirousOfChange

  He and I (Balaamsass2) met years later when I moved into his cong. and was assigned to his book study. We are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary next week. -- 3rdgen

  Congratulations guys!

  Pretty sure we had the opportunity to meet you both at Tahoe a few years ago. Definitely appreciate hearing your story!
  
  
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  WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

  today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

  it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm kind of surprised at the message being given in the video as it is much stronger than what I see going on locally. It is quite common for JW kids (esp the young gals) to go to at least 2-year Community College and on to career training such as nursing. Granted most of the young guys are going into the construction trades, which is very unionized here and earns great money and unmatched health benefits and retirement plans.

  But I suppose it is understandable. When your kid goes to college they are taught to think independently. Of course they can't help being influenced by the lefties who are the educators. But once they see their first full paycheck is only half what they earned, they'll like the guys who promise to cut taxes.