We don't know how many there will be.
"WE DON'T KNOW" seems to be their new go-to answer for everything. We'll just have to wait and see. Now get back to work you worthless slave!
DesirousOfChange
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Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting
by slimboyfat insay it ain’t so!
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in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?
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Half hearted JWs compared to past generations
by JohnR1975 inis it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.
when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .
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When the GB 'locked down' the JWs over Covid it did irreparable harm.
THIS is SO TRUE!!
First, many got very comfortable about NOT having to go to the Hall and just Zoom in.
Second, many of those Zoomers got bored &/or fell asleep, so they decided to CYA and turn off their camera. So, it gave the appearance of them "attending", but no one really knew.
Finally, some of those Zoomers with their cameras off realized that they could go do anything else (watch TV, have a beer, etc) and they got comfortable with just pretending to Zoom in.
When that happens, they were no longer being fed the Koolaid. When there is not that constant steady hammering of it, you discover you feel better without it and the next step is:
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Half hearted JWs compared to past generations
by JohnR1975 inis it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.
when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .
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DesirousOfChange
Even twenty years ago most JWs were just going through the motions, but I suppose it could be even worse now. I can't personally speak on that as I'm not there and I don't care.
This is obvious if you look at what JWS DO vs what they SAY. There is no urgency. They clearly do not believe they have a "life saving message" nor is there any urgency about getting that message out. Their religion is a social group. No different than if they were attending the Kiwanis Club or were a member of the Shriners.
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Do you recognize this?
by Gorb inthinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.
do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.
the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.
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DesirousOfChange
Being intelligent and/or gifted doesn't prevent one from getting caught up in a Cult, but I do suspect it is more difficult today in the "age of the internet" where most cults, like JWs, have been exposed and criticism is widely available.
I think it was those (that I perceived) intelligent and gifted JWs that kept me in the religion longer than I otherwise would have been involved. There were several brothers that I really admired. They were educated (so I suppose I figured they should KNOW it better than I -- esp the brother that had been an ancient history major).
Today, I don't think there are many "educated" that remain, though some are "intelligent", but still caught up in the cult and drinking the Koolaid.
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Is Watchtower totally off base on Armageddon?
by Vanderhoven7 into me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.
my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.
but steve greg has armageddon down pat.
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Fiction anyone?
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A Jehovah's Witness family's excellent Letter of Resignation trending on exjw Reddit today
by Balaamsass2 ini got an email notice today on this excellent letter of resignation from a german family that is trending on reddit.
i thought i would share it here if anyone is so inclined to write one.
for those with pimi jw family and jw business connections, it may not be wise to share such a letter, but i imagine it must be very freeing to send such a letter.
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Doubtful anyone of authority (ie at the Branch) even gets through it.
They will all have the same reaction:
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The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass2 innew york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
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The new light will be that we just don’t know.
They might try to sell that as NEW LIGHT, but it is obvious that they have NEVER KNOWN. Ain't nothing new about that!
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Watchtowers billion$
by lastmanstanding inserena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
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DesirousOfChange
An HOUR and ELEVEN MINUTES?
Someone really has a high opinion of what they have to say.
Bet it could be summed up in just the 11 minutes!
I quit wasting my time at the Kingdumb Hall (years that I will never get back) and I don't need to fill it with someone else's ramblings.
BTW -- I doubted the OP until I found time to look at all the backup here.
WTF said WT is going broke?
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Jehovah's Witnesses in the news again. Wise use of publisher's donations? New Zealand News
by Balaamsass2 indo jws feel this is a wise use of their donations?
does this bring honor to jehovah's name?.
9/1/24 :"new zealand abuse in care.
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DesirousOfChange
Seems to me they need to become more familiar with the Streisand Effect. No one would give a shit about it all if they were one of many religious groups investigated, but instead they throw up red flags and everyone takes notice that they are the ONE group protesting. Ya gotta wonder why!
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Why did God stop intervening in human affairs and deliverance of his people?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe bible is full of stories of god intervening on behalf of those that had trust and faith in him.
he rescues his people from various battles, trials and challenges from their enemies.
the rescued individuals or communities are quick to offer praise and gratitude to god for his mighty acts on their behalf.. the story of the israelites’ exodus from egypt and the parting of the red sea is a prime example of god’s powerful deliverance in the bible.
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DesirousOfChange
Jehovah still intervenes in human affairs. He's just been more subtle.
So subtle that no one knows it.
When Jesus returns, the 'miracles' will start again.
Don't hold your breath.