DesirousOfChange

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  Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past, we used to hear talks on:.

  avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.

  why evolution cannot possibly be true.

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  Vidiot: I know of no reversal on that policy. But admittedly I gave up the elder title 20+ years ago so have not been privy to the "secret files" ie, CO verbal instructions to write notes in your Elders' Book.

  I'd like to see what evidence you have for your statement, but I'm confident even WT would not be so stupid as to put anything like that into written instructions/policy.

  In my experience before our total fade, WT was taking any kind of sexual abuse VERY seriously. Anything remotely questionable (like teens passing/texting explicit photos to one another) required consultation with WT Legal. And regardless what anyone thinks, dumbass horny teenagers will do dumb shit like this. It's hormones folks.
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  Trump wins

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.

  i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.

  how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!

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  DesirousOfChange

  The idea that we are going to kick out 10 million people working the worst jobs in the country is kind of silly.

  How is it that they are working? Isn't it illegal to hire illegal aliens?

  How about if we kick out 10 million (likely closer to double that) criminals (entering illegally is a CRIME) and allow some back via legal immigration measures after we do things like "vet" them to know they are the kind of people we WANT here?

  If we allow anyone to remain in the US that entered illegally, then they should be permanently banned from ever being granted citizenship (who wants criminals as citizens?) and they should not be eligible for any government assistance benefits (as this reduces what is available for citizens and legal non-citizen residents. Not to mention it comes from the taxes paid by working US citizens.)
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  Biden gives the order to Zelenskyy to Use the long range missiles to hit the interior of Russian territory

  by liam in

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  the war in ukraine has now escalated.

  europe is now talking of getting involved in the war to curb the north korean armies that are helping russia.

  putin has warned that this will now give him no choice but to retaliate against nato nations.. the biden administration and the democrats in congress want to make sure that the war escalates to such a point that trump won't be able to bring peace to the war in ukraine.

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  They are appalled at the endless supply of cash flowing into Ukraine from NATO and the USA.

  So am I. And so are, I believe, 71 million voters.

  I don't know if it's actually CA$H or if it's really weapons. The Military Industrial Complex is who is really promoting this was (and every conflict for the past 25+ years).
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  Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past, we used to hear talks on:.

  avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.

  why evolution cannot possibly be true.

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  DesirousOfChange

  What is soft porn and what does the Jehovah Witness religion say regarding why they are allowing it?

  Plain ole dull straight porn - boy & girl. Think 1960's Playboy. (Probably requires pubic hair. Shaved is likely considered kinky & illicit.) [For the slow learners-- this is not really WT policy. It's satire or hyperbole. Please don't reply with quotes from the "Shepherd the Flock" book.]

  They are not "allowing" it. They just realized finally that they cannot stop it. Boys will be boys. While it used to mean removal of any/all privileges, they had to adjust that policy or there would be no elders/MS still serving and definitely no young guys available for Bethel service.
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  Where do you see the Organization in the next 10 years?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
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  realistically, between now and 2034, what do you think watchtower will change or reform to appear more mainstream?

  what business opportunities do you see watchtower getting involved in?.

  my predictions are as follows: .

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  DesirousOfChange

  my Bible Study Conductor believes that the end will be in less than 20 years.

  A JW elder just told me that "they" (insider info) expect the call for Peace & Security within the next 24 months.............and then The End™ will come. . . . soon. . . . very, very soon. (OK. I added the "soon" part.)

  It's right around the corner!

  
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  That the Cedar Point OH conventions and the resolutions have any meaning or connection to anything in Revelation.

  
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  Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past, we used to hear talks on:.

  avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.

  why evolution cannot possibly be true.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They have certainly lowered their standards, and particularly on some sexual matters.

  Soft porn (aka non-abhorrent) is OK (wink wink) vs objectionable abhorrent porn (with greed).

  Oral &/or anal sex (within marriage) are a personal matter (don't force her), vs in the past they were brazen perversions and abhorrent for a Christian.

  Masturbation -- do they even address it anymore. How dumb was that policy? Statistics indicate 95% of single men admit to masturbating regularly while 5% of single men are known liars. (IDK, seems more popular with you gals too these days.)

  Their position on gambling has been watered down through the years, too. Now, innocent "penny gambling" like a poker game or an occasional Lotto ticket is OK. I guess even dropping a few bucks playing slots on the Riverboat is "don't ask, don't tell". Just don't get "greedy" about it. That would be objectionable.

  I wonder if we'll see some relaxing on birthdays. Already they seem to be in the "don't ask, don't tell" arena too, as long as you're not having a drunken orgy or a blow out for the kids. Just keep it quiet.

  Even further evidence of the lowering of their standards, they've invited us to return to the meetings. Are ya kidding?

  "I don't care to belong to any social organization that will accept me as a member." ~ Groucho Marx
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The amount of lying and deceitfulness is simply appalling!

  It's not like they lied on one or two (or even a few) insignificant things. NO! What did they NOT lie about? It even involves some of their most important doctrines -- doctrines that separate them from Christendom and that identify them as "the one true religion". (HA!) I think that what they stated that has NOT changed would be a shorter list.

  And, it still ANGERS me. They have damaged (and even destroyed) so many lives. And most assuredly, at least some of those "at the top" must KNOW they are LYING. The writers that use misleading quotes and "spin" the Old Light to New Light cannot be "in the dark" and innocent about all of the deception. No. They are liars.
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  DesirousOfChange

  That should end the disdusion.

  FINALLY! Something I can agree with: END THE DISCUSSION!

  It's a waste of time and energy. It just doesn't matter. Just go and live life to the fullest (for tomorrow you may die).

  “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!”
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  THE LONG ANTICIPATED INTERVIEW OF THE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/dxyjupnklgi?si=2ux5wokg57xdpaob.

  here we have the more indepth interview of the two new gb members jody jodele & jacob rumph and what jumps out to me is how borring they are, interestingly they don't go into detail when it dawned on them when they became anointed but they only go though their history and how they ended up in bethel.

  as we already know jody jodele is the real estate expert that will help the gb capitalise on all this real estate money and jacob rumph sounds he spend alot of time as a missionary in south america, maybe he will provide a more insightful understanding of that continent to the gb since no indigenous jw will be part of the gb anytime soon.now what strikes to me as odd is the examples they both sited as the bible characters they want to relate more with, and no it is not jesus.. these modern-day governing body of jehovah's witnesses seems to be leaning heavily on old testament figures like moses and gideon as their role models instead of focusing on jesus, which speaks volumes about the kind of organization they’re leading.

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