Lloyd really did shit in his nest. He had a great thing going. He had respect. He had cash flow (for doing almost nothing). He was one of the Big Dogs in ex-JW circles. Now . . . .
DesirousOfChange
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Do JWs see the org falling apart?
by ThomasDam21 ini have been away from the jw cult for many years.
i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.
so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.
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DesirousOfChange
I’m worried that mentally it’s very very dangerous and this is why many will go downhill mentally or may even take their own lives.
They'll be fine as long as they don't accept the fact that it all fiction and is still to come "very, very soon".
And finally, at some point they will decide to stay and "fake it" even if they accept that it's all BS because they can't face losing their family/friends.
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On the anniversary of Anthony Morris' Resignation
by Vanderhoven7 instrange that after 2 years we still don't know the facts about anthony's resignation.
grant davus writes:.
the announcement.
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DesirousOfChange
Repeating an untruth over and over does not do any of us here any favors.
Sorry for the misquote. I was just recanting when I read from others here. Cold day in hell when I go to the JW website to inventory his videos. (Although I think he was probably the best speaker of the GB.)
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On the anniversary of Anthony Morris' Resignation
by Vanderhoven7 instrange that after 2 years we still don't know the facts about anthony's resignation.
grant davus writes:.
the announcement.
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DesirousOfChange
he told me that the reason Morris is not a governing body member is severe advanced dementia
I can't believe they would delete all of his videos from the website if it were merely a heath issue from advancing age. If that were the case, I think he would still hold an honorary position as a GB member, even though they may not consider his opinions or decisions on matters.
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"fear and with much trembling"
by Truth and Justice ini remember a long time ago, about 40 years ago, when my father said to me "things changed when the elder arrangement came in to focus.
" his view was that the elder arrangement was providing such a power and that sometimes it was abused.
my father was not opposed to the fact of their being elders, because the scriptures talk about the use of elders/shepherds helping the flock so to speak.
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DesirousOfChange
the apostle Paul said that he "came in weakness and in fear and with much trembling,"
I suspect that was false modesty or self deprecation since Paul didn't seem to mind changing the whole spin of Christianity so that he is often referred to as the "first apostate". The Bible books penned by Paul are nothing like the Christianity of Jesus Christ.
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Do JWs see the org falling apart?
by ThomasDam21 ini have been away from the jw cult for many years.
i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.
so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.
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DesirousOfChange
Not into many discussions with JWs any longer, but the JW family members don't give any kind of indication that they think the Org is in any kind of trouble. The Ukrainian war and Middle East tensions are fueling the fire that Armageddon is "very, very soon" to take place.
They know nothing about European branches having their status as a religion at risk. Very few even seem to know anything about the CSA lawsuit awards and settlements. (Or else they know not to mention it.)
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Dodge has found 4.7 Trillion Dollars in Untraceable money
by liam inelon was looking at the way they audit within the government agencies.
he found there are no links to payments made.
250 million payment………..to………………..consultant……..name ………..unknown.
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DesirousOfChange
I work for a large company. I suppose the CEO could decide to fire a huge percentage of employees tomorrow without regard or understanding of their actual job duties and in the very very short term brag about all the money saved since they no longer have to meet that payroll. But in a few months the wheels are gonna start to fall off.
Musk cut the staff of Twitter by 80% and it seems to be doing OK.
Most of us in the US know that when we go into any government office, there is one person that really knows what's going on and does the work, while numerous others (standing around or playing on their phones) are there because of their relationship to some politician who owed them a job. That is IF they even come into the office.
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When God Hates something or certain things are we expected not to do it 100%?
by Longlivetherenegades inwhen god hates certain things does that mean you are not expected to do that particular thing or certain things 100% .
1. god hates divorce does that mean we are not expected to divorce at all?
(hint: jesus allow divorce) .
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DesirousOfChange
If God hates something bad enough I suspect he has the power to tell you directly if he is really that concerned.
(Based on that, you can probably go ahead and masturbate without guilt.)
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Dodge has their Cross hairs on the Main Stream media.
by liam inquote from karoline leavitt, white house press secretary.
why is the media so against cutting waste, fraud, & abuse?'.
“we won’t be deter from people like you and the press, who are clearly adamantly opposed to cutting wast fraud and abuse.
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DesirousOfChange
Do main stream media companies get taxpayer money in the US?
They are not supposed to. They are supposed to be a free, impartial press. Tax payer funds do help support PBS & NPR. However, DOGE has exposed some payments having been made to at least a couple (highly biased) secular news groups.
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On the anniversary of Anthony Morris' Resignation
by Vanderhoven7 instrange that after 2 years we still don't know the facts about anthony's resignation.
grant davus writes:.
the announcement.
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DesirousOfChange
Watchtower, as a highly secretive organization, will certainly not provide any further information.
True. But JWs R&F have the loosest lips of any one group when it comes to gossiping. It's absolutely astonishing to me that there has been no reported "sighting" of him by JWs or ex-JWs in two years.