Great song. On the soundtrack from the 'Philadelphia' movie. If you haven't heard the soundtrack I think you would enjoy it.
Peace - LL :)
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10"Streets of Philadelphia" by The Boss...........
by Sunnygal41 inthe other day, i was in my car and this hauntingly poignant song came on the radio.........the feelings it evoked were so deep and exquisite, i just wanted to share the words with you here.........anyone heard this song and care to comment on it?.
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streets of philadelphia.
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Michael Jackson (JW?) attends AME Church????
by blondie inthe pop star - who is a jehovah's witness - was mobbed by fans after he arrived at the first ame church and thanked some children for their support.. .
jackson's attorney, mesereau attended the morning service along with his famous client who was introduced to the congregation.. .
following the service, jackson walked to a nearby sunday school classroom to thank some children for sending him letters of support.. .
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He's also on the front page of the Daily News w/ his sisters:
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Question... Do JWs shun Family?
by Sassy ini had a disagreement with xq in chat today, because he was trying to say that jws for the most part disobey the wts and still treat family like family even if they are dfd or quit being witnesses.. i don't feel that is true.
i think that the majority of us on here who no longer are jws have family members who no longer have anything to do with us and shun us.... so i said it would be interesting to take a poll and see how many here are treated just like all the rest of your 'loving family' who is a jw still.......are you treated the same?.
does family shun you for being df'd, da'd or no longer participating?or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active jws can't see?
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Something I posted in my LiveJournal....
by Tuesday inwould appreciate any comments if possible....thanks in advance.
(sorry had to take out the names but i have them all in my actual journal...here's to hoping no one i know finds the journal eh?
tuesday, august 17th, 2004 12:12 am a loss for words... a loss for words is one of the last things i would say for myself when it comes to typing, writing in this journal or writing an e-mail.
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Tuesday - Great piece. I think this is exactly why we have boards like this - They help us release??..
Good question - "how do you describe blue to a person who never saw blue before?" It can't be done, at least from our perspective. But a blind person has ways of 'seeing' that we are not aware of. I once heard from a blind person that "seeing is not only done with the eyes."
Anyway, I like the analogy of describing something never seen before, because in ties in with your point about faith. I don't have the faith in religion, nor do I want it. Faith is a must in religion, and it's true, you can't shatter anyone faith b/c the power to believe in something other than yourself is overwhelming. But what I don't like regarding people with so called faith is that they use selected reasoning (from the scriptures :) and logic to validate many of their points, but when you use the same reasoning and logic they hide behind 'faith.' I think if they have real faith then they shouldn't try to explain a point based on logic, reason, or fact b/c real faith stands on it's own.
Continuing on your analogy of something never seen before - Most religions are based on other peoples experience (so called) with God (vision, mountain top, dreams, lighting, etc.) I think if a person had an experience with God, then it's the persons experience - it's personal. No matter how they describe it no one will ever understand the fullness of that unique experience. That's why it's difficult for me to accept any religion, b/c it was based on someone else's experience w/ God and not mine. If God really wanted me to know something, I feel that he/she/it would tell me directly - no middle man. Interestingly, other people will take another person's experience w/ God and revised the whole event as if it was 'Gospel' and force it on others - even others in a totally different culture.
You mentioned - Elder's children. What a joke :) I can't speak for others, but the Elder's children I've seen in the BORG had a terrible 'stay in the BORG' percentage. Maybe 1% of all Elder's children I've known, stretching over 30 years, stayed in the BORG in their adult life.
I felt the same way as you when you said "It was mostly the people, too many mistakes and things going wrong for God to be in control." - Amen to that. The logic they taught me to have was the same logic that made me open my eyes. And talk a about, Pot, Kettle, and Black "if the priesthood is bad about molestation check out Silent Lambs"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you said " I can't shatter anybody's faith...They have to want to be out before they will get themselves out." It reminds me of a saying "When the student is ready the teacher will come." Also, it's a good thing we can't shatter people's faith, b/c if we shatter it then we have to be responsible for them to recover from a life time of deception - Whew, what a heavy responsibility.
Finally, you kept mentioning that you didn't have your bible, but you reminded me of when Thomas Paine wrote 'The Age of Reason" and he was locked up with no bible, but was able to precisely prove his points against the Bible being from God by memory (in part 1 or 2). Your arguments were also pretty clear from memory.
Looking forward to reading more from your Journal.
Peace - Larry :)
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How many of us posters ULC "ministers"?
by Glenmore ini found out recently that both valis and avishai are fellow universal life church people.
maybe we should form a tax-exempt corporation and legally-swindle money from the government like our alma mater (da borg) does?
http://www.ulc.org/.
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I use to enjoy Brother Daniel's weekly sermons, but can't seem to find them. Anybody knows if they are still on-line?
Oh yes, I was ordained about two years ago.
Thxs - Larry :)
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Unnatural Love - Poem
by Larry inunnatural love
what a fascinating turn of events.
being your first born son - heaven sent.
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Unnatural Love
What a fascinating turn of events. Being your first born son - Heaven sent. To being an outcast with no need to repent.
From the feeding chair to the barber's chair, it started out dysfunctional and all did stare - mostly fatherless, alone, and on welfare. But you gave me tender loving care as you taught me the Lord's prayer. I didn't realize our state of affairs - Covered over it with a series of prayers, even with the neighborhood in desperate need of repair.
You give us your best, filling us with dignity and pride, growing up in the city ? The Lower East Side. Holding back the tears, never cried, as I denied the time my father died. Went outside, no one to confide, allowing my conscious to be my guide.
Wondered how to pay the rent, had letters of intent, but needed government supplements ? No matter which way I went, It amounted to dollars and cents.
In his absence during adolescent, was also the absence of many presents. Missed many events which the Pagans represents - Religion filled the void - Heaven sent.
But the religious organization caused much frustration over salvation, education, and masturbation. No inspiration in the congregation, when it taught isolation through a revelation of mis-education. But accepted it because of the interpretation of the Watchtower publications.
You say Eternal death is my destination, no resurrection, just complete annihilation in the heat of evaporation. Did I have a right to challenge this explanation by God's so called ?spirit directed organization?? Was it guilt by association? No, the ruling was disassociation.
How long can a boy be under his mother's wing - religiously or biologically before he can have his own ideology? What Christian theology, justifies this methodology, of hurting people with no apology in this age of technology?
I'm your son you can't deny - why disown me because of scriptures misapplied? Why ostracize, vilify, and deny me for being all I could be? Oh can't you see, a apple doesn't fall far from the tree. You call this love - How can it be? When it breaks up families to such a large degree. So much anxiety with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
I'm a parent proud and wild, but can't imagine turning my back on my child.
Association with me you forbid, but what about your own two grandkids.
Teenagers they have become, witnessing a mother's neglect for her son.
You accept lawless people of ill repute, a rapist, a theft, a prostitute. But what about your son for whom there is no substitute?
You plead, come back to the Watchtower Organization and all will be well, but how can I submit to this spiritual blackmail? The perpetrators of which should be jailed for deceiving the flock on such a grand scale. Common sense, reasoning, and education will prevail over this search for the proverbial holy grail.
You were wrong in saying the organization is where I belong - I knew all along what was right and what was wrong. The pride and dignity I learned early on prevents me from signing another Kingdom song.
I will not give in to this inhumane way of life, not me, my kids or my wife. We will continue our quality of life amidst this worlds turmoil and strife.
No need to debate - of 'worldly' reasoning you can't relate. It's too late for me not to hate what I was taught from '64 to '98 ? The contributing factors of my emotional state.
No need to shout or pout the 'little boy' is crying for the love he went without. I realize beyond a shadow of a doubt ? as long as you are devout our relationship will never work out - so much to think about.
It's what it is, accepted from below and above - This thing I call Unnatural Love.
- Lawrence L. Henderson Jr. 2004
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JW's and interracial marriage?
by c.dawn inmy nephew a jw who is white is dating another jw who is black with the intent to announce their engagement soon.. i had been reading about the past history of the jw's opinion of the black race.
old writings that said they were gods people too, but not intelligent as white etc and not qualified intellectually to go door to door to teach etc.that all people would be white in the new system.. i had read of a rope being run down the pews of the fellowship halls to separate the races during services during the 50's early 60's at the halls that did allow intergrated services... this was supposed to have taken place even up to a few years after de-segregation in the schools and other public places took effect.. that in some areas they had their own hall to meet at and the whites had theirs.
at one point the members of the black hall had asked to meet at the white hall as their building was being repaired or soemthing and they were told no, that some of the members of the white hall wouldn't understand or approve.. and i read that even up into the late 90's, many black members still weren't being given postions or responsibilities that whites had held since the beginning of the jw's.. i was just wondering how far they've come along to improve this image and if anyone knows thier opinion of interracial marriages.
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I concur with everything blondie said - Right on point, especially the first sentence:
JWs usually reflect the prejudices of their era.
Recalling interracial marriages - One white sis. told me (c mid '80's) that she wouldn't marry a black bro. b/c marriage is hard enough, why complicated it by marrying someone outside your race. Believe it or not, I thought that was such a profound statement, and often quoted her when the subject came up. In hind sight it was such BS - and a perfect politically correct answer.
I knew some interracial Bethelite couples, who told me they would get weird stares from other Bethelites.
But yes, the scenario is usually a white man marrying a black sister.
Peace - LL :)
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42nd Anniversary
by Golf in.
i'm dedicating this post to the mrs. i'm thankful she has lots of balls putting up with golf, i need them!
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Wow - That is some accomplishment - Congrats to you and the better half :)
Peace - LL :)
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Talk to Her
by Larry in.
did anyone see the movie 'talk to her' by pedro almodovar?
tragic, shocking, and different but makes for a great movie, even with the sub-titles.. peace - ll :)
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Yes I got the DVD today and watched it during lunch - of course I have to watch the movie again at home.
I don't think the nurse was gay b/c he loved a women and got her pregnant, in fact, his love for her was all he lived for. On the surface he had gay-ish way, but I think the director was challenging men and their ability to be emotional and comfortable with their feminine side.
I think it was tragic b/c like most tragedies someone has to die for someone to live or vise-versa.
The sexual undertones and metaphors were hugh - literally (Once you see the movie you'll know what I'm talking about - talk about head first!)
I enjoyed the movie b/c it made me think about the power of love, and the lengths people will go to pursue it. But as my grandmother would say - "ain't that much love in the world."
I almost cried but could not get pass the obvious 'rape' which made me want to kill the protagonist myself. But all in all - I recommend viewing this movie - good piece of film work in every which way.
Peace - LL :)
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Talk to Her
by Larry in.
did anyone see the movie 'talk to her' by pedro almodovar?
tragic, shocking, and different but makes for a great movie, even with the sub-titles.. peace - ll :)
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Did anyone see the movie 'Talk To Her' by Pedro Almodovar? Tragic, shocking, and different but makes for a great movie, even with the sub-titles.
Peace - LL :)