Welcome Velour--your story was hard to read. Painful. It will keep getting better now. I'm glad you've taken control.
NC
like a creep, i've popped out of nowhere and i've been throwing my 2 around all over this forum.
i'm sorry it's such a long post.
i hesitated and delayed writing it knowing it'd be long.
Welcome Velour--your story was hard to read. Painful. It will keep getting better now. I'm glad you've taken control.
NC
hope y'all don't mind if i ghost write this post for my husband.... i recently let my friend borrow my copy of the movie "the island".
for those who haven't seen it, the plot takes place in a futuristic setting in los angeles where science has perfected human cloning.
the latest rage in medicine is to have a clone made and maintained for you should you ever need it for organ transplants.
A Wrinkle in Time---best description of paradise. The main brain sends out a pulse and everyone is hypnotized and controlled to act uniformly.
NC
another ex-dub was talking to me about nutrition and healthy lifestyle, natural remedies, etc.
i've been getting into it.. i came across dr. fuhrman.
he's an authority (board certified family physician).
The good thing is that I recognize the signs of cult. I hope I don't let it go that far. I think I'll go to Dunkin Doughnuts and smell the sugar.
APOSTATE!
i'm thinking about including the following in an online essay but wish to make sure it's fair and accurate.
any baptized member who uses tobacco and cannot quit ( deemed unrepentant) will be disfellowshipped.
be aware that there is no stated minimum age limit and i've heard of children as young as 11 who've been baptized.
That's pretty accurate. I know someone that was baptized at 12 and disfellowshipped at 13. Thirty years later he's still being shunned.
NC
what would you do to disconnect from the jehovah's witnesses?
some actually go as far as commiting a wrong to deliberately get disfellowshipped.. the disfellowshipping becomes their "ticket to ride" right out of the organization.
former jehovah's witness carrie was not happy growing up in the so called "truth".
Hmmm--so some woman decides she doesn't want to be a member of her cult anymore and instead of leaving she...........get's pregnant???? And that's whose fault???? The saddest part of all is that she is now a mother and can pass her brand of wisdom on to her child. She is a moron and it's a shame that you let people like that represent us. But do as you wish. Since this woman has no ability to think for herself, maybe she was exactly where she needed to be.
Or maybe she is spot on. Afterall she grew up with the story that when things got tough 2 women decided to get pregnant===even though that meant having sex with their father. I guess they couldn't find a man in Zoar to quench their biological need to bring more morons into the world.
NC
i was wondering if some of you can give me some advice in how to get over the fact that i feel so inadequate when trying to make new friends!!
since i left the borg i have only made about 2-3 close friends... the wts ruined my social skills and i am so depressed because i am afraid of the real world... i know i am ready to move on... but i dont know how.. i feel like i dont belong in there but i dont belong out here either... i am in social limbo.. and it sucks to have no friends.. .
when i was in i hated the weekends because i was basically forced to go to service, now i hate the weekends because if the few friends i have are busy w their families or partners i am stuck all by myself... :( please give me some pointers i feel super lonely!
Hi Free---of course volunteering and classes are great. But also book clubs are great because you have something to talk about---the book. That helps with some of the awkwardness. Also there are hiking clubs, bicycle clubs---check your park schedule. You'll find free things to do that will bring you into casual contact with others. There is no short-cut here. You will have to develop your social skills. When things get awkward, try asking a question and be interested in the answer. People enjoy talking about themselves and you'll find what they have to say to often be surprising.
Volunteering in a nursing home will really make a lonely person happy---not only that it's not a scary situation and you may really get to unload a bit. I LOVED volunteering at a nursing home when I was a teen---these precious people were interested in everything I said and patient and wise. I later went to work there because I had such warm feelings.
The world is full of many types of people--and I've learned most of them are just fine. The WT scares you into thinking they are all evil with an ulterior motive---and some are like that. But most are just like you---looking for good friends and desiring to be good friends.
Also get interested in some things. Start reading, take up a hobby, expand yourself. MAKE yourself an interesting person with something to say. Try cooking---there are cooking classes everywhere or just get a good book---invite a friend or two over to try a new recipe. Or learn to brew beer--no one turns down beer.
You are free now. Is there something you were always interested in that you'd like to try? Try it. Groups of people just kind of adopt you when you have a common interest---the trick is developing some interests so that you can have something in common.
I joined some writing groups and I also started going to the Unitarian Universalist church. This was a great place to connect with people and they don't judge. I'm an atheist, but I like their principals and their people, and they really don't care what I believe. There I can brush elbows with Buddhists, pagans, wiccans, christians, atheists, agnostics---whatever. there is a good mix and it helped me develop tolerance because that is what they are about. I also went back to school and worked on making one friend at a time. Schools also offer clubs---another option. That's just what I did---you choose your own path.
I wish you the best. Now things are going to get really exciting.
NC
so, i think i am about ready to write my da letter... i am freaking done w this cult.... .
yesterday i went over to pick up some $$ from my old jw roommate (cellphone contract!
) and we started talking, since i am not df (yet) we still talk about regular stuff w/o a problem... she is almost 30, not exactly a model and not even remotely interested in going to school or getting a full time job (she wants to spend all of her time in the field circus because the end is near ::roll eyes::)... back to the story, while talking to her she started talking about this brother she rejected like 2 years ago, but now she wants him back because she realized she is not going to find another man with such a small pool of options... the dude is almost border line apostate now (tehehehe) and rejected her... guess what was he reaction?
I feel your pain! You know, if your friend did go back to school and work on finding fullfilling employment she might actually become INTERESTING and her small pool would grow naturally. I knew many sisters that felt a title was a prerequisite. In the end they expect very little of themselves and very little from a possible spouse. In the real world, gathering some experience, reading books, having opinions opens the social field. I'd much rather discuss a book or politics then spin around the SAME OLD spiritual material!
NC
i was recently born again and thus am anointed because of this i have come to realize that though there are sincere people who are jw, some teachings are fine but the wt organization is a fraud.
here is my story sorry if it's a bit long but i need to tell it.. 16 years ago today i was baptized as one of jw's.
i was 17 years old the only one in my family.
Welcome Discreet. We are all familiar with the WT article saying those that partake may be mentally imbalanced. We are also familiar with the article that calls apostates mentally diseased. In the end, it sounds like a lot of name calling to preserve their position and mediator. I'm glad you're happy again and I hope that continues.
NC
well i have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and have finally decided to create an account.
just wanted to introduce myself and relate my life story in the borg, specifically from the past few weeks- which i think has been a lot easier than many on the board.
anyway, my mum began to study when i was 10 (2005) and since then has been babtized; she strongly believes it is the truth.
Welcome SeeNow! Judging from your post, I'm pretty sure you were able to express your doubts quite well. My advice--do not get baptized. If you aren't baptized you can't be officially shunned. This way you don't have to give up your family. If you get baptized and leave, you really could lose your family. You are doing the right thing---just don't take that step! That will keep you safe. Most of the suffering here is because we got baptized and now are shunned. Keep reading. Read science and history too. This way your questions come from secular facts and not just apostate sites.
NC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.
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so there wouldn't be any confusement. We were off to a bad start.
Yes Talesin, it got much, much worse. It was as if we were speaking different languages! I was nearly in tears with frustration because it was an accounting issue that demanded good communication skills. I finally had to ask to speak to her supervisor---simply because I couldn't understand a thing she was saying. And I was quite experienced and good at my job. I had an easier time speaking to my accounts with Spanish as a first language!
NC