Has anyone had this line said to them when there was questioning involved? Did it irritate you because when questioning did happen that line was almost always used as a shut down to keep you from going any further and to make you feel guilty in the process? Because we're just idiotic and feeble minded human beings, so surely we can't possibly begin to question the likes of god.
LovelyEunie
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"Who are we to question /god/?"
by LovelyEunie inhas anyone had this line said to them when there was questioning involved?
did it irritate you because when questioning did happen that line was almost always used as a shut down to keep you from going any further and to make you feel guilty in the process?
because we're just idiotic and feeble minded human beings, so surely we can't possibly begin to question the likes of god.
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Good News! Jah is speeding up the work!
by awakenyr2004 inall he needed was the internet how many years later!
the end is definitely around the corner now.
with all the website hits just in the last few weeks how could it not be?
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LovelyEunie
Just because they get 3 million hits a day does not mean nearly that many are staying there.
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LovelyEunie
Yes because annoying people on a Saturday morning will most definitely help in finding the cure for ALS.
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What my mother should have done.
by LovelyEunie inthis is somewhat of a rant but every time i think of it it just pisses me off.. .
i never understood why my mom would never switch to another hall or whatever when she knew how i was treated by the people who were supposedly the 'best' association around.
my older sister also, because neither of us really had any jw friends because for whatever reason i guess we were pegged as the baddies because our dad wasn't witness (still isn't) and my mother stayed sick a lot so she wasn't able to do half of whatever was required.. .
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LovelyEunie
This is somewhat of a rant but every time I think of it it just pisses me off.
I never understood why my mom would never switch to another hall or whatever when she knew how I was treated by the people who were supposedly the 'best' association around. My older sister also, because neither of us really had any JW friends because for whatever reason I guess we were pegged as the baddies because our dad wasn't witness (still isn't) and my mother stayed sick a lot so she wasn't able to do half of whatever was required.
First neither one of us were allowed to have a social life in school because everyone was bad association and my mother had this thing where she felt like we didn't to see the people we did talk to after school or need to talk to them on the phone because we saw them at school all day, which in itself was stupid coming from the woman who saw her best friends at the meetings and yet would come home and get right on the phone with said friends and gossip loudly for half the night. Then the people who we were supposed to want to associate with never wanted anything to do with us because all they did was bluntly act like we were not worthy of their time. My sister and I were unhappy, and yet what did my mother do? Sit there and use that pathetic excuse of 'imperfection' and not lift a finger to make our experience better, because hell, she was comfortable where she was, what did the happiness of her two daughters matter? Not to mention that it was hell in school because I was already pegged for being different because I wasn't allowed holidays, couldn't hang out with the people who actually did seem to care about my life since they were 'worldy' and therefore bad, which just made most of them hate me too.
It was hell in school for me as well as in the kingdom hall, and when I try to tell my mom that to this day, she tries her hardest to give them all a pass. 'Well they were just imperfect', or 'just give them a chance we all learn from our mistakes'. No I gave them chances and I still have the scars to show from it. Thanks to my upbringing I basically have Social Anxiety and bouts of depression and I'm extremely needy for attention because I didn't get a lot of it, not even from my own parents because there were things more important to them. Really, my mom wouldn't even come to my choir concerts when I was in high school because 'she was going to the kingdom hall because putting god first is what she was supposed to do.'
Like I don't know if she thought she was setting a good example for me when I was fourteen because all that did was make me hate being a JW kid even more than I was already starting to. And it made me dislike her. Like who puts a religion before their kids? Who? I'm 22 and I know that whoever I end up having kids with, NOTHING OR NO ONE is coming before my child's happiness I don't care how devout I am in something. If my kids aren't happy with it, then I'm not going to constantly ignore all the signs of unhappiness just to keep shoving a religion they didn't even choose down their throats because 'it's the best way of life'.
I was never happy there, and my mother doesn't seem to get that. Even when I try to hint at that now, she still doesn't get it, or just likes to pretend that I'm just confused and I'll come back to the fold someday. I can't go back. Why the hell would I ever go back to something that only gave me bad memories? Why would I go back to something that made me feel like I was unworthy of God's love because I disagreed with most things being fed to me? Why would I go willingly sit in a place that tells me God will kill me for loving who I love? Why? Why would you think I would be happy sitting there while feeling guilty because I know none it ever sat well with me. Maybe I'm tired of constantly saying things I know my mother wants to hear just to make her happy so I can be honest about my own feelings. Maybe I'm tired of hiding my true self. Maybe I want to be able to say in my mom's face that hey, I'm a resounding agnostic, I will not believe in something anymore just because you and a bunch of other people claiming to be the 'mouthpiece of god' tell me to. And hey, if a big 'D' day does happen then I'd rather die with the knowledge that I was happy with my life than unhappy and only doing things out of obligation.
TL;DR: If my mom wanted to keep me as a JW, she should have done a lot more to accommodate me than to just shove a bible in my face and tell me to deal with 'imperfection'. -
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Washington State - Gay Marriage and JW's
by sinis ini wonder how this is going to impact them??
is public going beyond "membership", or is it a "member"?.
february 13, 2012 (lifesitenews.com) - gov.
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LovelyEunie
You know since the JW's don't concider themselves as a 'church' anyway, that actually wouldn't apply to them. Oh, the irony...
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I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS !!!!!!!!!!!
by wasblind in1) i think it's ridiculous to tell anyone when and how to use something they paid for ( computers and internet service ).
2) i think it's ridiculous to tell married couples how to act in the bedroom.
3) i think it's ridiculous to tell people what kinda cars they should buy ( 4 door for fieldservice ).
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LovelyEunie
That you are not to think for yourself because it will surely lead you down the path of destruction.
That beating your kids because they don't sit still during the meetings is an okay thing to do.
That telling kids that getting a college education will ultimately corrupt your minds and God will not except you.
That people that are not in good standing with Jehovah or "wordly" people are all bad.
To tell your kids that sex is bad an obscene unless you're married and even then, some parts of sex are still bad for married couples to take part in.
That they shun their kids because they choose they're own path and not the one JW's said was the right path that everybody should follow.
...I'm sure I'll have more on that later lol
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What Doctrines or JW Views Did You Not Find Too Believable?
by minimus inthe thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.
you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?
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LovelyEunie
How can you follow the command not to judge and still be a JW???
You can't. It's utterly impossible. Because they don't realize that they begin to judge right after they say "We don't judge, only God has the power to judge" but then two seconds later within the same sentence they're like, "You're a perverted person and immoraly wrong if you engage in homosexuality." Didn't you just say it wasn't your place to judge???
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Young people, you can die if you do not progress in the truth and become baptized.
by garyneal inthis is what the guest speaker was saying at my wife's hall yesterday.
she and i was babysitting our niece and since she had three kids going to the hall with her (including my two daughters) i figured i'd go with her to help out.
they were rambuctious and wild to say the least.. while i was in the hallway with my youngest daughter, i continued to listen to the speaker talk.
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LovelyEunie
An elder told me "We don't judge. Only Jehovah is the one who judges".
They lie through their teeth everytime they say this, I just want to slap them everytime this comes out of their mouth. JW's always say that they don't judge, because that job is left up to Jehovah, but if God says "Hate what is bad", meaning people with tattoos, people who smoke, homosexuals, people who have sex before marriage, people who live together etc.., then the JW's are supposed to do exactly that, meaning all the latter I just named could truly good people in their hearts, but since God has deemed all this bad, then the JW's in fact will look down on you and be very harsh towards people, but then have the nerve to say they don't judge...please, my mother was just having a phone conversation with her JW sister putting down a worldly woman because she chose to live with her boyfriend without being married.
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New Elder Book-Definition of Apostasy
by foolsparadise inapostasy: apostasy is a standing away from.
true worship, a falling away, defection, rebellion,.
so now even people that fall away are considered apostates?
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LovelyEunie
What the heck is "defection" supposed to mean??? I don't understand that...? Defection as in how?!
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How have your opinions changed?
by LovelyEunie inhow have your opinions changed on subjects like premarital sex, gay marriage, higher education, music, smoking, interfaith marriage etc... and do you think they have changed for the better?
personally i feel like everybody has the right to choose their own path, free to make their own choices outside of the jw's and everybody within their religion needs to deal with it and move on, like they expect everyone else to do when they made the choice to become a jw.. i have no problem with homosexuality, seeing that i'm bisexual myself; i used to hate it when my mother would get angry with me because i wouldn't tell my gay friends that it was wrong and disgusting and one day god was gonna killl them kill them for it, when she knew i was too, it was hypocracy at it's finest.
smoking is so not a moral choice to me, it's a health choice.
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LovelyEunie
@MorbidzBaby: My mom would do the same thing to me when ever I brought up my best friend wanting to be with anther guy. She would make this disgusted face and be like "You need to tell your friend to stop chasing after men and find a girl, its just perverted!" Gee mom, like someone could change how their brain is wired at the drop of a dime... We probably have the same mother lol jk jk