The police just said 31 in one building and two in the dorm. That makes 33 dead plus the shooter. What a tragedy, my heart hurts for such a needless crime.
Leslie
msnbc is reporting at least 20 dead and 27 hurt!
i just can't understand why this keeps happening!.
swalker.
The police just said 31 in one building and two in the dorm. That makes 33 dead plus the shooter. What a tragedy, my heart hurts for such a needless crime.
Leslie
msnbc is reporting at least 20 dead and 27 hurt!
i just can't understand why this keeps happening!.
swalker.
OMG!!!!! My heart is breaking for these kids and their families.
Leslie
i'm shocked!
if you remember my experience, in a nutshell, basically my ex-bethelite ex pioneer husband cheated on me with an older "worldly woman" from his job and left me suddenly.
i had no idea that we had trouble with our marriage, however, when i discovered the love letters from the other woman, he moved out, and a week after that, i received divorce papers.
I am very sorry that you have experienced such pain by your husband. I do know where you are coming from. I and my husband had been pioneers for over 10 years, living where the need was greater etc. In fact they were considering using my husband as a temporary CO. That was what we were working towards, when he has an affair with another pioneer sister who was supposed to by my friend. In fact I had just gone out in service with her the day before he began his involvement. I know the utter feeling of betrayal. I was so mad I wrote the the GB, here I felt like I was being disciplined by his behavior. We had to leave our assignment, he was no longer an elder and pioneer. Because I am a woman I could not fulfill the dreams that I had of being in the curcuit work. What did the brothers write back to me.....Leave it in Jehovah's hands.
It takes time to heal, and the feeling that when you are innocent someone needs to pay is normal. What you need to understand is that there is nothing that you can do in anger that is really going to make you feel better. It feels good for a moment, but remember what you do stays with you for the rest of your life. He and this woman deserve each other, you are to good for them. Give yourself time to grieve for what you lost. It isn't only the grief of losing your marriage, it is losing a dream. The dream of living forever with someone of your choosing. HE IS NOT WORTHY OF YOU!!!!
Leslie
what was charles taze russell really like?
he is often held in contrast to his brusque, domineering, and rude successor, j f rutherford.
was ctr, the philanthropist who poured his fortune into the movement he founded, the pure democrat, a contrast to the dictatorial jfr?.
I think it is very telling on the title's the followers used for both men. Pastor Russell and Judge Rutherford. I think that pretty much sums it up. One is viewed as a Pastor the other as a Judge.
Leslie
my wife left me 5 years ago when i left the jehovah's witnesses.
she got remarried saturday to one of "our" old jehovah's witness friends jay .
jay's wife, judy died 6 months ago of cancer.
You got to love the fact that they can't have sex unless they are married, so by golly I will just start hitting on woman at my wife's funeral. How sick is that!!!!! Like was mentioned those two deserve each other. I am sorry you daughter was hurt, both your kids sound like good ones.
I also had the samething happen to me. I decided I no longer wanted to be a crazy JW mostly because I didn't want my 3 girls married off when they turned 18. I also wanted them to go to college and experience life. But my JW elder ex-husband thought that I was taken over by Satan and left me and my kids. He remarried a JW woman that he had known when he was a teenager. My kids tell me he isn't happy, but at least he can have sex. Again just like your wife, my husband deserves what he has.
Just be glad you are free from it all, I know I am.
Leslie
megan and yes even me both felt the baby move for the first time outside of her, so it was my first time.
its really amazing, and we have the second scan on the 20th which is when we find out the sex unless its legs are crossed again.. .
I have to say after having three children, you never get tired of that feeling. It is very special..enjoy it now, the little one will be wiggling in your arms before you know it. Congrats to you and your wife. There is nothing like a first child, it is so exciting.
Leslie
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/132082/1.ashx is part 2 with all the background.. so the first real test came this weekend.
i had a work-related excuse for missing the .
midweek meetings, so the subject never came up.
I think you are handling it very well. Good luck and keep us posted.
Leslie
i believe that i am experiencing a profound change in my personality, and those changes are at a stage where i have honestly contemplated this recently.
honestly.. i don't think i could ever do it - anyone who has followed me on the boards here know that i am neither suicidal nor an apologist for that lot.
yet, having been off work for a few weeks now with surgical recovery, i have had time to make assessment of my future.
Have you ever attended a Universal Unitarian Church? They believe that you can believe in anything. They understand the need to worship, but make no judgment on how you chose to do it. They open every service with different rituals from Buddhism, Christian, Native American, Hindu, Islam, you name it they do it. I actually learned alittle about other different belief systems through them. They also are very involved with current issues, the environment. Our local chapter here in the summer has a nature walk every weekend. All our welcome. I find it refreshing.
Even though you don't always see it on the boards, many of us are like you, we still feel the need to belong. It is one of the reasons we were drawn to the JW religion, as well as our desire to worship. You need to find out what makes you feel like you are filling that part of you, if you don't you will always feel like something is missing. Good luck, just know that we are here for you.
Leslie
iwas baptised in 1984 and have never felt like i belonged in jw land .have felt ashamed ,guilty, and worthless for 23 yrs .. i could never do it all.i havent been to a meeting in 6mos.but i have been reading these posts ,and i found out the jw .
make every one feel as i do.
what a relief it,s not my fault .
Welcome to the board, glad you are here with us.
Leslie
spilled the beans yesterday.
told her i was never going to another meeting again.
knew it wouldn't be too hard going as she's always had a few doubts herself, what i didn't appreciate was just how many she had and how hard she was finding it as she is developing a great social life with 'wordly' friends!!
Sounds great!!!! It also sounds like you have a great Mom..
Leslie