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  DO EVEN DIE HARD JWs REALLY THINK THE END IS NEAR

  by Liberty in

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  after reading a couple of posts about the growing apathy among the r&f jws today i was reminded of the years following 1975 when the dropout rate was growing rapidly and the "faithful" die hards took it as a sign that the "end" was really really near since the winnowing process was removing so much chaff.

  keep in mind that this was over 25 years ago.

  it's been mentioned before but it is worth repeating that, no matter what is happening, religious fanatics(jws) always see it as a sign from god.

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  MORE ON 1975, FOR MUSKY

  by Liberty in

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  2. beliefs

  along with musky's 1975 post i've just seen another so i wanted to try and reach musky again and reach others who wonder about the reality of the society's 1975 speculations.

  af and others have done an excellent job documenting what was actually said by the watchtower society through their own official publications and spokesmen.

  as a person who was actually there in those heady times of the late 60's and early 70's these official documents confirm what my memory tells me i knew all along, that of course the society actively promoted 1975 as a "marked date" or a date of "great significance" at the very least.

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  HOW GOD GETS MESSAGE TO WATCHTOWER LEADERSHIP

  by Liberty in

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  just how do the 144,000 co-rule the earthly organization with christ?

  i started thinking about this subject again after seeing the post on the watchtower as a false prophet.

  do any of you remember how this was explained in the old days (i've been out so long i don't know if this is now "old light")?

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  Response to RWC's Atheist Questions

  by Liberty in

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  2. bible

  hi rwc,.

  i'm sure you're a very nice person and i don't want to get into an argument but rather a civil debate.

  i just wanted to point out that as ex-jws many of us are a little obsessed with truth (not to be confused with "the truth" tm) and that after being burned by the watchtower society and hating ourselves for being so stupid to have fallen for its bs we have now become highly skeptical of the bible as well.

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  More results of growing up in the "Borg"

  by Liberty in

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  a very interesting topic.

  part of the reason we're all here on these sites is to share our similarities and compare ourselves to others who have gone through the same things seeking the reassurance that we are not complete "freaks" after all.

  i've noticed that their are several traits that watch tower mind control commonly produces in their victims.

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  WTB&T DOESN'T USE MIND CONTROL???

  by Liberty in

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  i was stunned to see that one of our new posters doesn't believe that the society uses mind control on its members.

  i think that the fact that they don't see it is evidence of just how deep the control really goes.

  have they never read 1984 by george orwell?

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  C-14, Science, and The Bible for Uncle Onion

  by Liberty in

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  hi uncle onion, i think we have talked before on the old h2o.

  i just wanted to say that i'm glad your curiousity is so strong cause it keeps us-skeptic-science-lover-types on our toes.

  i've enjoyed your discussion with amazing about c-14 and can't begin to do a better job than amazing or alan f on this kind of thing but i just wanted to point out that there are mounds of evidence proving that life has been on earth for millions of years even if c-14 dating was completely discredited(which it has not been).. firstly, since you have a healthy interest in such things i would strongly recommend that you take an introductory geology class at a local jr. college or university, some thing like " history of the earth" and you will be amazed by what the bible fails to mention and you will understand why college was discouraged by the wt society for so long.

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  Demonic attacks and other wierdness. For Ttwho

  by Liberty in

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  hi ttwho,.

  i was concerned by your response to my post about the paranormal because it seems you have suffered more than your share wierdness.

  i feel a bit guilty because i said talking about this stuff is "fun".

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  Demons,ghosts,& wierd happenings

  by Liberty in

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  i love this subject.

  i just wanted to point out that i am not a complete skeptic about these things i just think that there are many possible explainations besides the standard jw "it was demons" response.

  firstly, i'd like to reinterate that i respect the reality of your experiances in the realm of the para-normal so i'm not arguing that you are all lying or that you're crazy, i am merely questioning the cause of the event.

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  Glad I found this place & Questions about H2O

  by Liberty in

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  2. friends

  it's good to see so many familiar folks here on this sight from the old h2o.

  is this(the site we're on now) "simon's site" that some on the new h2o were talking about?

  i have nothing against the new h2o but it always causes my netscape connection to crash and it's not as easy to use as the old h2o or this site.

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