with all the hurt and pain from so many witness's being insulted by the socitys strange veiws on so many issues that it claims is from gods own heart, it leads me at times to ask: "jehovah just where are you and do you really see anything at all going on with in an oranization that claims to be your own".
waiting for an ansure.. pepper
I am one of those that no longer believes in God, whatever name you choose to use. The reason God doesn't do anything is quite simply because there is no God.
One other poster in here has a sig along the lines of: "Believe in yourself, not mythology." That is so true. God is nothing more than a myth. Live your own life and be true to yourself. Just because you've believed in somthing all your life doesn't necessarily make it true.
hullo people, well its my first time here so, i wanted to say hi and if any of you guys who pop in here happen to be from australia or even new zealand, please contact me, well if you want, because i know there are heaps of us around who have had the big df and i know a few in the brisbane area, so if you by chance find this note, yes its me and maybe we could get together.
see ya all.
soldier on :)
Hi Rouge,
I'm not an Aussie but a close neighbour. Welcome.
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To the world you may be one person,
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the soundtrack of o brother, where art thou?.
lisa
Joe Cocker - Unchain my Heart
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please can everyone think twice before they make posts containing bad language (even if not directed at individuals), graphic sex talk and nude or semi-nude pictures (especially if explicit).
this is not what the forum is here for.
if you want to post stuff like that then there are lots of places on the internet for it and, more importantly, if people want to see and read stuff like that then they are quite capable of going to these places themselves.. i know everyone likes to 'let their hair down' now and again, me included, and i like pictures of sexy women as much as anyone .
Thanks Incense. I'm not ready to post my story just yet, but I will sometime.
I really appreciate your support.
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just wanted to say hello and sort of introduce myself.
i am usually on another jw posting board.
i found wonderful friends there and i was hoping to find more here.. i've not been df nor have i da'd myself.
Welcome Creamypink, I'm a newbie myself, from a different time zone.
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sorry simon,.
i just found some funny pics, that are mostly clean, that i wanted to post...i promise i'll post some serious stuff today, too.. .
.. what really happens at the governing body keggers.... .
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please can everyone think twice before they make posts containing bad language (even if not directed at individuals), graphic sex talk and nude or semi-nude pictures (especially if explicit).
this is not what the forum is here for.
if you want to post stuff like that then there are lots of places on the internet for it and, more importantly, if people want to see and read stuff like that then they are quite capable of going to these places themselves.. i know everyone likes to 'let their hair down' now and again, me included, and i like pictures of sexy women as much as anyone .
Am I reading this right? We have to wrap the forum in cotton wool and not say or do anything that might upset any 'dubs that might view our posts. We can't talk like normal people, most of whom swear a bit, or mention sex, or anything else they might upset the 'dubs.
Well fuck me!
Those bastards fucked up my whole life. And I'm only just beginning to experience what a normal life is. And this is one of the few places where I can actually hang out with some people that really understand how shitty my life actually is and can offer support.
And yet the Borg is still controlling us!
I didn't come here to save other 'dubs, I came here to try to save myself and along the way support any other X JW's that are experiencing similar things. Reading these posts has brought up a lot of shit that I had buried over the last few years rather than dealing with it properly, so the last few months has been somewhat emotionally difficult for me.
I always really hated the way they controlled my life, telling me what I was & wasn't allowed to think, feel, do, say, etc. And even after having left they still hang the fear of DF'ing over me, cutting me off from my loved family members (the ones that still talk to me).
Why should we be worried at all about what the 'dubs think? Any that come here are breaking the Borg rules anyway. So they're going to hear some swear words and discussions about sex and a host of other stuff that the Borg says if "forbidden"...SO WHAT!
They will discover that the cotton wool "paradise" they live in is a farce, that the real world is a lot harsher than they thought. Well if they can't handle that then they should stay in 'dubland, believing their delusions of living in a paradise.
I just want to live my own life without the controlling influence of the FUCKING WATCHTOWER SOCIETY.
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hey,.
ok, i need all the advice i can get...... last week i told my sister (she is jw, as is my entire family) that i did something stupid.
i had just broken up with my boyfriend because he was cheating on me.... and in some kind of drunk-revenge-mood i slept with his best friend..... .
Hi Eppie,
I totally agree with Mulan, who you sleep with is your own business and on-one else's. Certainly none of the 'dubs business.
I am a former elder and (I'm ashamed to admit) have had a part in DF'ing people in the past. However, they can only DF you if there is clear evidence of what they consider "wrongdoing" either by a confession by you or (wait for it) "two or more witnesses."
So, unless you made a videotape , if you deny everything, including saying anything to your sister, they can reprove you, but they can't DF you.
In a way I'm in a similar situation as you in that since leaving the Borg I've done heaps of things "worthy of disfellowshipping." and I too have family I don't want to be cut off from. But they can't touch me 'cos they have no evidence, and I sure as hell 'aint volunteering any.
Don't let the Borg control you. Be who you want to be. If you want to sleep with a different guy every night, that's your decision, and don't let anyone tell you that your wrong. I don't for a moment think of you as a "wrongdoer". Sex is not a sin.
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one of my closest friends in all the world is someone i'll call m. m is in her mid-thirties and was raised a jw from infancy but is one no longer.
her parents are still very jw... her dad is a very high profile, respected elder in a large american city.
they are both cool people... i've sat and had long talks with both of them about subjects having nothing to do with 'the truth.
This makes me think of my relationship with my father, (who only just tolerates me since I've left the Borg), and then he will never contact me, I have to contact him. I spent my whole life trying to win his approval and he's never once shown me any fatherly love or appreciation. Sometimes I thenk he never loved me, even when I was being a "good witness."
It's so important to be there for your kids, no matter how old they are.
I'm still looking for my car.
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i'm fairly new to leaving the borg (about a year and a half).
just wondering if anyone else has had a hard time adjusting to dating in the real world?
i don't go by the whole 'we better not date unless we're ready to get married'.
"What do you mean you've never been in a long-term relationship before. At your age, how come?"
"Well I've been a 'dub all these years and given up my personal happiness for the sake of the WTS."
"But you've had a girlfriend before, haven't you?"
"Well no, you see 'dubs aren't allowed to have a girlfriend unless they're looking for a wife, and in Bethel you aren't allowed in a room with a female who's not a blood relative without the door open."
"Thanks for dinner. Don't call me, I'll call you."
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