i don't know if you experienced this before, but i was always wondering why inactive or df'd jws look down upon others, even not acknowledging their fellow sinners.. any thoughts??
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Just because they are out doesn't mean they don't still believe it.
I had a friend who was also DFed and we did hang out on occasion but her opinion was that she was litteraly commiting suicide by not getting reinstated.
So the people that won't talk to you probably feel like it would be adding to thier sins..
On the other hand I have had farily long conversations with people that were tecnically still in as far as I know.
when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.
if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.
there was never an obvious message/answer from god.
years ago, the society's speakers used to give many off the cuff statements.
a lot of personal opinions and questionable remarks.. anything ever stand out for you in this area?.
If you can't live with your JW brothers and sisters now how will you live with them in the new system.
i am reuniting with past students and return visits.. i met up with a young lad i used to call on.
he is not baptised, but at university in his 20's and living away from home.
his mother is a jw and his father is not.
If I could bear to talk to a jw long enough for them to figure out I was an apostate I'd probably say "oh! you're still part of that cult?"
i'm reading through the watchtower rule book right now and i came to the chapter clarification and guidelines on handling certain matters.
there is a part about scriptural divorce and even if adultery is not proved if your ex stayed all night or is involved in an immoral sleeping arrangement you can get scriptural grounds to remarry.. .
they make a rule, then they have to make a rule for the rule, make another rule for the rule for the rule.
Nice observation. Why is this something they make a loophole for especially when they seem to reccomend the single life anyway?
during our engagement, we fooled around and touch each other down there.
it's not a "tap" but definitely is not "stimulation".
i tried to convince my wife, who, after 5 years of marriage, strangely felt guilty all the sudden, that its not do called porneia.
I feel for your wife, I was in the same boat feeling guilty for stuff that I had done years earlier. On top of that I found out that virtually everyone was doing stuff and never confessed.
But it was the way I was treated when I confessed that helped me find my way out of the borg.
60 years ago, in the western world, it was rare to see in media, any representation of a face that wasn't euro-white.
these days, in response to market driven advertising, that is changing.. i can only speak for oz, and here i note that it is now quite common to see an asian face, most likely east asian (chinese, korean, vietnamese and japanese) in adverts.
for various products.
Miss America 2013
i have seen ufo's in broad daylight.. what is the party line of the wts on ufo's?please.
anyone else seen these things?.
If I remember correctly the WT take on aliens is as follows:
1 Jehovah created everything in the universe and beyond.
2. Satan made the challenge that people would not worship Jehovah out of love.
3. If Jehovah had created beings on other planets it is likely that they would have already proved or disproved #2
4. Therefore there must not be other planets with sentient beings.
hypothetically speaking, if you are dfd and witnesses call at your home and you give a warm reception and in the course of discussion tell them you had just been praying to jehovah to help you get back on track with him, would they go full force at helping you get back in, even fast tracking it?.
as with many who are dfd with family still in, at time i entertain the notion of returning just to get my family back.. so what do you think about this scenario, would it help or hurt?.
i ask because of how enamored they are with the idea that angels guide their efforts in service and lead them to the sheep.
It would do nothing good for your situation except maybe earn you a visit from the elders. But it would do wonders for bolstering the dubs attitue that they really were being directed by holy spirit. If you were truly sincere you would already know that you needed to go and bore yourself to death at the weekly meetings.
The truth of the matter is the dubs would have taken away your family regardless.
If they became wittneses and other family members didn't they still would have cut off most association with the non-believers.
At least that is what my parents did, we had the obligitory visits to their parents house on occasion but not much else.
I do know of one person who took up smoking then got reinstated just to prove that holy spirit had nothing to do with it.
i want to talk about my story because i need help and advice and most impirtant a lot of comfort.. one year and a half ago i met a wonderful guy.
he was really nice and supporyed me during hard moments.
i slowly fell in love with him.
1. You will eventually get over him just give it time, lots of time if you need it. It will take as long as it takes.
Think of the sadness as something temporary like a cold or a sore muscle. Yes it is uncomfortable but eventually it will go away so no need to obcess over it.
2. He used you for his own selfish needs then moved on. JWs are no different than any other people in that regard maybe even more so.
You said "I have lot of respect for his faith"
Don't, if he was really acting on that fath he would never have gotten involved with you in the first place.
He lied you on and you have the right to be mad at him for that.
