what was it about living forever that appealed to you when you were a jw?.
was it the idea that you'd have all the time in the world to do whatever you wanted to do?
were you thinking about travelling the world and seeing it all transformed into a paradise?
LIVE FOREVER....
Returning to my youth was a big draw for me, and then always being youthful. LIVING FOREVER and tasting all the different food represented by the many countries, and what about sex, and meeting new people, this a big place, the Earth!
How much could you consume mentally if you had forever? Maybe I could live long enough to understand women?
If I had to live forever with this current body or with health problems, maybe not, but offer me youth and health.....WOW?
BREEZE
what's your favourite cheese, please?.
mine's gruyere, a swiss cheese that is absolutely scrummy.http://www.cheese.com/description.asp?name=gruyere.
of course, i still enjoy the noble stilton, danish blue and there ain't nothing to compare to a genuine parmesan with pasta.. but, gruyere takes some beating, i reckon.. englishman.
change from within?
maybe if you could do away with ignoring your own family because they made a mistake and did something foolish in their life that already regret terribily?
caspian says: but i am not alone, i am in contact with at least 30 active elders, 1 travelling overseer and one prominent bethel elder who like me are trying to create change for the better within the organization.. other changes and suggestions that would improve the org, please!!!
Sentinel....
Said: The borg should stop being the conscience of man, and let man find his way, even if it is another choice of belief. If man chooses the JW concepts, then that's fine.
Well put....
I have nothing to add....
change from within?
maybe if you could do away with ignoring your own family because they made a mistake and did something foolish in their life that already regret terribily?
caspian says: but i am not alone, i am in contact with at least 30 active elders, 1 travelling overseer and one prominent bethel elder who like me are trying to create change for the better within the organization.. other changes and suggestions that would improve the org, please!!!
CHANGE FROM WITHIN?
Maybe if you could do away with ignoring your own family because they made a mistake and did something foolish in their life that already regret terribily?
Caspian says: But I am not alone, I am in contact with at least 30 active elders, 1 travelling overseer and one prominent bethel elder who like me are trying to create change for the better within the Organization.
Other changes and suggestions that would improve the ORG, please!!!
Edited by - breeze on 6 November 2002 20:50:47
last night i happened to surf onto the tonight show.
bob newhart was the first guest, the second was serena williams.
as i'd never actually seen her before [not a sports buff] and all i'd heard about her was the various jw postings, i was curious.. first, she came off as totally natural to me.
Nathan..
I am a devout coward...I bet you know him?
Would you do it for me? I'll help, his intials are MM.
BREEZE
last night i happened to surf onto the tonight show.
bob newhart was the first guest, the second was serena williams.
as i'd never actually seen her before [not a sports buff] and all i'd heard about her was the various jw postings, i was curious.. first, she came off as totally natural to me.
Is she active or did her parents just go to some meetings?
I've seen her several times and she doesn't strike me as the JW type. If she becomes an actor, I bet the first role she does is a sex thing, nude scene etc?
I hate these self-righteous types that as soon as they get a chance to make a big buck they are off. Some get involved with these kinds of things and remain elders. Where does that leave the poor congregation publisher that isn't supposed to even watch sports. A brother that is in sports in a big way that I know is an elder, you all have probably heard him do color for NBC-CBS etc?
His whole family gave me hell about not doing enough and he is still doing it today? Two faced hypocrites!!
BREEZE
Edited by - breeze on 6 November 2002 13:57:12
Edited by - breeze on 6 November 2002 13:58:2
unbelieving mates versus inactive mates...
i could never figure out why the org told wives of inactive or brothers doing less, that they were to do their own thing and just not listen to their husbands?
if they were married to a unbeliever the org said to listen to him unless it were a direct vilation of bible standards.
unbelieving mates versus inactive mates...
I could never figure out why the org told wives of inactive or brothers doing less, that they were to do their own thing and just not listen to their husbands?
If they were married to a unbeliever the org said to listen to him unless it were a direct vilation of bible standards.
I had many problems because of this position with my family and wife especially if they were in a "going to the hall mode", and I was not doing as much.
It seems I heard many talks about this subject, was I just too sensitive?
Does this make sense to anyone else? Did I just imagine this? Maybe I am just not worthy....my name isn't Wayne either? LOL....
BREEZE
Edited by - breeze on 7 November 2002 20:38:20
if you were to describe what your status was in the congregation, what would it be?
were you viewed as mature?
in "good standing", a pain in the rear?
FIT IN??
Remember that I was disfellowshipped at eighteen.
I never recovered from that experience spiritually.
I always felt as though I fit in until I reached an older age? Phoenix was the worst, the CO there thought because I was from the south that I was dumb. I guess I proved him right by being there in his way all the time.
I remember one night in the Deer Valley cong., (1996?), they announced that the org needed extra donations. I had been a regular publisher only a couple of months and regular meeting attendance for about a year or so. I ran up to the group of the brothers handling the new program after the Service Meeting and asked for a commitment slip to donate funds. Wow, they looked at me like I had pulled down their jeans and exposed their privates in the middle of the Hall. I never did figure out why they treated me this way? I never put anything else in the contribution box after that, soon it was very difficult to go to the meetings at all. I grew a beard and that kept them away from me? I had these problems in different situations for years.
The congregations where my Dad was present I didn't have as many problems. He was usally an elder or servant and I suppose I was considered off limits.
The problems my kids had were bad for them but I seemed to get through all of that. My kids were marked as bad association even though they were really good kids, they just didn't add up because I guess our field service was limited and not acceptable.
I felt as though I was never doing enough according to the do rights that hovered over the cong.
BREEZE
Edited by - breeze on 6 November 2002 9:28:55
my wife, liza, came home from work this morning (she was doing the 3rd shift thing) and said she was leaving me.
this afternoon at 1 pm i took her to the bus station.
at 4:20 pm she was off to nyc.
...Yeru...
I get what you mean about healing mentally with this whole website, I know there is much pain here! X-jw's and the real ones, have many problems dealing with reallity. I know because I have spent my life as a mental leach on the society.
Maybe there is some solid advice here?
Ballistic: Your modesty becomes you! Send pictures....I visited your website, which one is you? ....very interesting he said, with German accent...
BREEZE
my wife, liza, came home from work this morning (she was doing the 3rd shift thing) and said she was leaving me.
this afternoon at 1 pm i took her to the bus station.
at 4:20 pm she was off to nyc.
Yeru...
I am new to this group. First, be careful of, listening to this bunch for real advise?
You seem like a smart person and I am sure you will get through this very well on your own?
Women all seem to be looking for something in their relationships that just isn't real. I have three daughters and they all think that their mates, husbands, are superhuman and can be this perfect white horse riding knight.
Good Luck....
BREEZE
