just thought i would post this link!
it is someone who has posted here before and goes by "kelsey!
" he did a interview on disfellowshipping a while back and i don't know if it was ever posted here!
Thank you for that link, that was a extremely well written article. And frankly, no JW could rightly grumble about it because their point of view is clearly put over as well.
The pain that disfellowshipping puts people through is expressed very well in that stark headline!
When I read his name I thought "Kelsey Graham, that's Frasier, isn't it?!". Then it dawned on me that the person's name that I was thinking of was slightly different!!
i have decided to join this board after getting to read some of the stories here.
some of you might be familiar with me through conversation with my wife, cassiline, who has been a member here for quite some time now.. let me explain a few thing about my beliefs which will be boring to some of you so it's ok if you don't read this.
i don't have a religion, i simply believe in myself and the well being of others around me.
maximumflash, thank you so much for joining. I'm always really interested in hearing the views of "never-beens" who have partners or other relatives as JWs or ex-JWs . It must be tough for them to comprehend the craziness of it all!
to those of you that followed my last thread about my shock pregnancy, i asked my jw parents to come round after the meeting tonight so i could tell them.
i was so nervous because im not married and the first time i told them (this is my 4th!
) they were not too impressed.......... they were fine!
is there anyone from the area who remmbers the story of the 30,000 spent on trees for the vist of a gb memmber.. i dont know the exact story as it is now about 7 or 8 years ago but i heard it from several people that worked on the hall.. apparently a gb memmber was to come to britian to dedicate the hall (i cant remmember which one).. the brothers in charge wanted the hall to look nice for his vist.but the land around was yet to be landscaped.. so brothers enquired as to the viability of planting some trees but were informed that it was the wrong time of year and they would die.. the cost of the trees was around the region of 30,000.plus the amount of free labour from the brothers in planting them.. anyway the big bosses of the scheme decided to ignore the professional advice and planted them anyway.. they all died.. 30.000 pounds of money from old ladies, pioneers and little children as well as ordinary publishers went down the drain for the gb's visit.. nice to know they used our money wisely.
Again a lovely stainless steel kitchen fully equipped was unused when the new "simplified arrangement" came in.
Exactly the same thing happened at Dudley Assembly hall as Hayes Bridge by the way! I worked on both Bristol and Dudley projects, but I found the waste of money at Dudley more shocking there than anywhere else I've ever been. I will tell the full story when I'm out.
i just got back and i wanted to say thanks to eman and her ladyship for a really great bbq.
it was fun meeting lots of lovely people too.
now i've got a lot of catching up to do...ps> if anyone's got any pictures of me they can put them up i don't mind.
It was lovely to meet you too, I hope to see you again at our next 'do!
to those of you that followed my last thread about my shock pregnancy, i asked my jw parents to come round after the meeting tonight so i could tell them.
i was so nervous because im not married and the first time i told them (this is my 4th!
) they were not too impressed.......... they were fine!
Hey, I'm a good catch! I attend all meetings, out on the service regularly and I'm a deft hand with the old mike handling!
Nobody gets to the answer-upper quicker than Matty, and I know the difference between an omni-directional and a hypercardioid!
Why do I get the impression that this is just not impressing anyone!?
we all know the tough stance the wts has about beards, but i found this bit of information about disneyland's standards regarding male employees (and guests!
) rather interesting......... (emphasis in the paragraph (yellow high-lighting) mine).
http://www.snopes.com/disney/parks/longhair.htm.
The parallels with the Disney Corp are really interesting, thanks for that Pris. I always thought that the society's stance on beards was imposing American cultural standards on us, rather than biblical standards. I thought the same about the ban on sisters wearing trousers. I am annoyed also that when I have an assignment - mikes, sound, platform, attendant etc... I have to wear my suit jacket, no matter how hot it is in the hall, I can't leave it hanging on the back of my seat, or I get told off!
Bear in mind none of these bans and restrictions have been mentioned in any of the publications! Because the Watchtower is international the dress standards that they mention are usually very vague and open to interpretation.
i dont know whether ive posted on this before, but when i was a young guy we used to get up to some fearfull mayhem on friday and saturday nights.
we burnt down buildings, blew cars up, shotgunned houses and blasted windows out while people slept inside, stole cars and piled them into telegraph poles, and ran cars off the road just for laughs.
now the thing is, while we were doing this...we were all active dubs!.
Whoa refiners, you were bad! No, I was one of those "holier than thou's" you spoke about. I didn't really look down on the bad kids in the congregation, it wasn't really my nature to be pious, I just felt sad for them and hoped they would change, because I thought they would die at Armageddon. I would never snitch on them of course, both the good and the bad kids had a code of silence!
i just had to go to meeting tonight to hear the material on the internet.
it was the usual stuff about pornography, many scriptures and three mentions of how jehovah was giving this material to the slave to give to us at this time, so there must be a reason.
of course, satan got three mentions too as one who is trying to ensnare us into abusing the net.. and of course, nothing on the net can be trusted, per the fsd.
One of the comments that was made I thought ironic in the extreme. The subject of chat rooms came up and we were warned about the kind of people that frequent these places. These people may not tell the truth about themselves, we should be not allow our children to make arrangements to see people they meet in chat, as they could be paedophiles pretending they are children. Good advice of course, but you can see how I was thinking can't you? Of course nobody in the congregation would lie about themselves would they? So you can let anyone in the KH be alone with your child can't you!?
hi to eveyone,.
i was d'fd 18 months ago, i was prepared for the shunning within my family and the borg of all my friends (as i never associated with "worldly people") but i have been totally blown away with how nobody cares about my 2 young children!!.
my kids have not heard from their aunties and uncle since i was thrown out in feb '01.
(((Tish)))
It's just plain awful what you've been through, let's hope both your family and mine come to their senses some day soon. All I can say is that you're doing the right thing for your children, they won't have the crap life we had, and soon enough they will recognise what's really going on! Kids need the freedom to express themselves. Sure, we had some good times in the circuit when we were teens, but it's all relative, and I'm sure you can see the wider picture now about how "wonderful" it is to be brought up in the troof!
