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  spiritual paradise and Bro. Gangas (GB)

  by D wiltshire in

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  when i was a bethelite 1974-76 the evening meals were what we called free-seating (no asigned seating).. i sat at a table with (gb member)george gangas.

  he would regularly have questions that he would ask the younger brothers (kind of a bible trivia).. but being that i was only baptized 2 or 3 years i didn't want to answer questions, but i had one i wanted to asked him.. what is this spiritual paradise that the society keeps talking about?.

  when i asked him he choked on his soup, and said he didn't know.. i felt bad that he didn't know.. about 2 days latter i sit at his table and basically the same brothers are their.

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  Maximus

  ::I guess most of the exs here will give you support, because they need to do so in order to feel part of a group after having been cut off from one already.

  Mishnah, I ordinarily ignore childish drivel. I will not in this case, but I'll give you the doubt and assume that you are sincere.

  I posted above. I assume you refer to posters above when you say "they need to do so ... after having been cut off." I have not been cut off.

  Make no assertions on this board. Or face the consequences.

  The Mr. Gangas you refer to was indeed a spiritually inclined man with no pretensions. Would that you were.

  Maximus
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  A report you may be interested in

  by NikL in

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  i am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on jw e mail so i thought i would post it for your inspection.... a report you will be interested in.... .

  brother steve lett read an announcement from the teaching committee this.

  morning.. on saturday, june 23 the country of peru was struck by an earthquake.. sadly,.

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  Can't wait to see this in print, Seeker. That will be a tap dance to remember.

  Jerry, all I can say is
  You have a razor sharp mind.

  Stay tuned. The fuzzy theory of physics, as applied to theology Watchtower-style.

  And read, read, read.

  Maximus
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  spiritual paradise and Bro. Gangas (GB)

  by D wiltshire in

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  when i was a bethelite 1974-76 the evening meals were what we called free-seating (no asigned seating).. i sat at a table with (gb member)george gangas.

  he would regularly have questions that he would ask the younger brothers (kind of a bible trivia).. but being that i was only baptized 2 or 3 years i didn't want to answer questions, but i had one i wanted to asked him.. what is this spiritual paradise that the society keeps talking about?.

  when i asked him he choked on his soup, and said he didn't know.. i felt bad that he didn't know.. about 2 days latter i sit at his table and basically the same brothers are their.

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  Maximus

  Mmmmm. Seeker is right, George G started that two decades earlier when the term New World Society was used, replacing New Order (doesn't translate very well into German as Reich!) which followed New World. Famous for catching you in an elevator.

  Many years later took notes on an hour talk I gave in East Manhattan, whose outline called for covering Matt. 24:14 in a few short minutes. He good-naturedly lambasted me for not spending the bulk of the hour on this. "They want to hear about thee Keeeeng-dom!"

  A Greek, he explained "kosmos" to persons who DIDN'T ask, with careful application about the lion and the lamb lying down together having fulfillment --breathless pause -- NOW!

  Something is out of kilter, as Seeker says. Maybe he thought, "I cannot believe the level of ignorance of this kid, because I've told every human just exactly what this is and by now everyone HAS to know what the spiritual paradise is." Maybe he thought you were going to point out which personalities at Bethel were particularly lion-like. <cough>

  It was embarassing when he couldn't keep up with whether it was a covenant or law or ... because he was on the GB and apparently wasn't hearing what God was whispering in his ear--or maybe he didn't understand God's English.

  Thanks for some great memories. For some it may be refreshing to know that one guy did talk about Scripture. By the bye, had you sat with Grant Suiter I guarantee you the conversation would not have been about Scriptural things. Hard to imagine the two of them together in GB meetings, eh?

  Schroeder the judge could easily see how telling the truth about someone could be grounds for slander; e.g., the truth about Rutherford's drunken antics.

  smile
  Maximus
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  A report you may be interested in

  by NikL in

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  i am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on jw e mail so i thought i would post it for your inspection.... a report you will be interested in.... .

  brother steve lett read an announcement from the teaching committee this.

  morning.. on saturday, june 23 the country of peru was struck by an earthquake.. sadly,.

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  Thanks, Seeker.

  Was beginning to worry that no one was going to pick up what now may be public knowledge.

  Uh, David Splane had just come from the Teaching Committee when he made these pronouncements?

  Welcome to fuzzy theology! A shapeless, nebulous GB? Just those taking the lead rather than the emblems? Who holds the power now?

  My good friend Farkel always says, "Follow the money."

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  Maximus
  Trust me that "progressives" likely gasped at the knife story and rolled eyes knowingly at the table and afterward. They hear these nutty things all the time.
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  A report you may be interested in

  by NikL in

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  i am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on jw e mail so i thought i would post it for your inspection.... a report you will be interested in.... .

  brother steve lett read an announcement from the teaching committee this.

  morning.. on saturday, june 23 the country of peru was struck by an earthquake.. sadly,.

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  Maximus

  But is there a pony in there somewhere?

  About a new or nebulous definition of the governing body?????

  Maximus
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  Funny grammatical errors by foreigners......

  by LDH in

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  as you may know, i will laugh at you if you confuse:.

  hear and here.

  too and to.. i will also, laugh at syntax errors.

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  Maximus

  Labadamized

  Per say

  Tow the line

  Prolly

  Funniest one lately is someone whose doctor told her she had a "high anal hernia." Really flummoxed us until we realized it was "hiatal."

  To whoever wrote it, I can't remember, it is not my intention to poke fun. Actually it was on point, and I darn near fell out of my chair:

  "Analize the Bible."

  M
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  A report you may be interested in

  by NikL in

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  i am not sure where this origionated but it has been making the rounds on jw e mail so i thought i would post it for your inspection.... a report you will be interested in.... .

  brother steve lett read an announcement from the teaching committee this.

  morning.. on saturday, june 23 the country of peru was struck by an earthquake.. sadly,.

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  Maximus

  ::However, in line with adjustments made at last year's Annual Meeting,
  emphasis in recent months has been placed on the spiritual role of these
  brothers, as opposed to simply their position in a legal corporation ....
  these brothers may be referred to as members of the Governing Body, or as
  ones taking the lead among the Bible Students.

  B I N G O !!!

  "Ones taking the lead" ...

  How can the new boys on the GB (like the inexperienced David Splane and Steven Lett) match up in "taking the lead" with guys like "other sheep" Don Adams and Bob Wallen (Pres and VP of the PA corp) who have given their entire lives "taking the lead" globally, over many decades of Bethel service?

  Ah so. Who comprises the governing body today? Those taking the lead? Who are they? Just someone who happens to take the emblems?

  Lots of partakers today are -- women. The number of old anointed males is falling off. Newer emblem partakers are almost invariably looked at suspiciously, because there really is no outward stamp of their spirit anointing.

  New light to be published later?

  Still waiting for someone to comment on the new Branch committee, and the changed/mooted roles of the Service Committee and other GB committees.

  Maximus, Doggedly Inscrutable
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  Damn! Jesus had a BEARD! What do we do now?

  by JanH in

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  questions from readers (w68 5/12 p. 86-8).

  * when jesus christ was a man on earth, did he wear a beard?-k.a., u.s.a.. biblical evidence is the most reliable testimony to be found on this question, and a recent careful review of what it says indicates that jesus did indeed have a beard.. jesus, born a jew, "came to be under law" and he fulfilled the law.

  (gal.

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  You kiddie are too young, mayhap, to have studied "The Truth Shall Make You Free" book, in which Jesus is pictured as paaaaale white, with the reddest apple cheeks--looked like a glistening sunburn.

  To "learn" the Lord had a beard put many in shock. They left some wiggle room.

  In the 50's there were a few who got away with it, pleading some skin disorder that was thereby covered. <cough> Anybody remember Norman Crowhurst? Pioneered stereo sound in the US, one of the British contingent over here. Beard permission given by his chum Milton Henschel, who was a bit of a rebel and more "progressive."

  Anyone remember the IBM standard? How they dressed, we were to dress. I think of that once in a while when meeting the nerdy but very individualistic lads at that once-hallowed institution.

  I permitted forerunners to "soul patches" and got away with it.

  Maximus
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  Tertullian & June 15/00 WT on Blood

  by hawkaw in

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  in two paragraphs in the june 15/00 wt qfr on blood, tertullian is quoted a few times in the 5th and 6th paragraphs on page 29.

  ( http://www.jwfiles.com/blood-wt6-15-00.htm.

  i have been trying to find the exact quotes from tertullian.

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  Hawk,
  Factus est. It's a done deal.

  Would the person who sent me scans please also send me a scan of any inside cover, to show the enormity, the gazillion languages ...

  Maximus
  Who wears a belt AND suspenders some days
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  Complement a Poster

  by Black Man in

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  here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.

  i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.

  but i'll single out some peeps in particular.

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  Maximus

  BlackMan, you are unique--a special gift.

  Hope we hook up one day. I have the marks of the chain on me too, and that makes us more than brothers.

  Max