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crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?
part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .
Hey can anyone help me with actual newpaper articles with this as I am drawing blank....sadly friends in Australia have not even heard of it and the one who had, had little to no interest in it.
I may have missed some links already posted so my apologies but so far all I can get it Mr. Uthanks, press releases which are usually on web sites and not in the press.
This is very interesting.
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i'm asking because i was reading an article on the huffington post about ricky gervais having arguments on twitter with christian fundamentalists.. they talked about ricky being on the cover of the new humanist magazine in september/october and how that was part of the controversy.
they showed a picture of the cover and on the lower left hand corner there was an article teaser about "leaving jehovah"!
just wondering if anyone read it and/or has access to it.
I think the article is about a young sister who left the org when she was young or as she puts it excommunicated. Ricky Gervais is the cover article but doesnt have anything to do with JW story.
It is an interesting read as to why she chose to leave and her positions and worth the time.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't one article state that some 'vindictive" individuals, referring to those who sued and won their case. went against the congregation. If they do not view them as adversaries then why was this written in one of the articles....Blondie help if you can with this one as i can not remember the magazine it was in.
they stopped letting people do the bible reading and give a commentary of the reading incase the wrong thing is said.. elders must stick to the scriptures in the watchtower and not go outwith it.. nothing can be kept in writing by the congregation.
bible studies due for baptism are checked for a past history.
the society routinely destroys information on nearly everything.
They stopped letting people do the bible reading and give a commentary of the reading incase the wrong thing is said.
Elders must stick to the scriptures in the watchtower and not go outwith it.
nothing can be kept in writing by the congregation
bible studies due for baptism are checked for a past history
the society routinely destroys information on nearly everything
elders are routinely watched by each other
something tells me they are becoming more and more paranoid about apostasy or they are being questioned more and more and so the crews are coming on tighter. Is it just me or does everyone else see this?
just a little tidbit from the congregation i attend..... the congregation has approximately 120 publishers.. well over 1000 magazines per month are picked up, not to mention all the books, brochures, and tracts that are picked up.. there was a "local needs" part on the service meeting recently, asking for more contributions.. it seems our congregation has averaged just about $300 per month contributions to the "worldwide work" over the past year.. .
assuming 1500 magazines / month, that's just 20 cents per magazine - and that completely ignores all other literature that is picked up.. the last price the magazines had, 20+ years ago, was 25 cents per issue.
with inflation that would have been about 50 cents each now.. just another sign of how severely the contriutions to the society are drying up..... .
I know from the 80s early ninety's i attended a small hall, about 50 pubs and they sent then 200 pounds per month and had on reserve about 12000 pounds and bought their new hall out right.
We had alot of oldies but they had pensions but the widows mite was a frequent at the end of the month and reading out of the accounts and how we should send more and it always happened. Then again they waited until bars held up the roof on the hall and we actually had linoleum so they could have just had the money since they never spent it!
the first time i heard of christopher hitchens was today when his named was mentioned multiple times in the comment section of a youtube video.
after reading a brief summary of his life, it became clear that this guy was a complete douche-bag.
a very arrogant sarcastic bigoted f**k who looked down on everyone who didn't share his beliefs.
Although he was not "my cup of tea" the man had an exceptional ability to reason often catching himself in a contradiction. Famously he once stated that he was an athiest and then when being challenged by a group of christians said "oh god" even he chuckled.
It is sad when anyone dies and at such an early age. Even though we may or may not have agreed with his POV he stuck by it had a sound reason in his mind for it and llived it.
If I am right his brother is equally as brilliant at putting forth his case for his beliefs.
I think in some cases he irked people because when he was proved to be incorrect he pulled a tone of arrongance and childishness example of which was statng that the death of american soldiers is right to achieve a cause "most in this audience wouldn't understand" and when booed said " people are watching you disagree with me" which made people laugh more than take him seriously.
In the end he took a more lighthearted tone and tonite on Anderson Cooper one was able to see the real man who firmly believed what he wrote and was determined not to be a hypocrite by calling out for a God to come to his rescue.
Great mind that will be missed.
have others noticed that if you enter "jehovah's witnesses" into a google search that the first alternative it predicts is "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased"?.
i use firefox and am in the uk, if that makes a difference.. does that mean that "jehovah's witnesses mentally diseased" is currently the most popular jw related search?
if so i wonder how many of those searches are by jehovah's witnesses prompted by media exposure of the issue?.
Interestiing! I have not tried it but wouldn't be surprised.
I have witness family in the UK and they said it caused a commotion with a number being discontent with the "hate speech".
when considered the above gives the society carte blanche to make up what it wants when it comes comes to things unwritten.. when asked where in the scriptures judicial committees are mentioned and whether they are scriptural, the answer was: "since it is not written it is not going outwith the things written".
in other words regardless of right or wrong things can be made up if they are not specifically written in the scriptures.. however, your input is requested on the baptismal questions.
since it is written that we are baptized in the name of the f s hs then is the current baptismal question blasphemy?.
When considered the above gives the society carte blanche to make up what it wants when it comes comes to things UNWRITTEN.
When asked where in the scriptures judicial committees are mentioned and whether they are scriptural, the answer was: "since it is not written it is not going outwith the things written". In other words regardless of right or wrong things can be made up if they are NOT specifically written in the scriptures.
However, your input is requested on the baptismal questions
Since it is WRITTEN that we are baptized in the name of the F S HS then is the current baptismal question blasphemy?
When asked about this the reply was "it encompasses the essence of the scripture"
What do you guys think?
hi my name is marie.
i was brought up in the truth from birth being born xy.
i went through torture as a child being born this way and apearing female in every way, even wearing boy clothes.. at the age of 15 years old decided that going through the amendment of my gender identity was a must and sought medical adv at the earliest oppertunity... this lead to me being thrown out of my home at the tender age of 15.... as time past they accepted me as their daughter a few months later.. thanks to jehovah as i was getting involved in a lot of bad things to keep a roof over my head.. at the age of 20 they paid for my surgery for which i've never looked back from and feel so much more comfortable with my body and myself.. i'm quite sure if i'd remained as my birth sex that i would not be here now writing this.. i started going back to the meetings shortly after having surgery and was met with some love and predjudice to the extent of which toilet i should be using and what clothes i should be wearing.... i've started to study again but am afraid of being stumbled again in regards to going to the meetings... after a lot of prayer and considering scriptures like -.
All i would say is that Christ died for all and made no distinction period. leolaia hit it right on the head, it is how you love not who you love and the fact that you can love.
you are an admirable person
i think everyone who does put in a field-service report........should just use the principle from "a day for a year".
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4:6) i know i put in about 6 minutes of actually talking to someone about religion at work, so in.
Dont forget holidays at time and a half!!!!
