Posts by bioflex

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There is No Morality Without God

by whereami in

addressing the argument, made by many christians, that with no god there can be no morality.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnu-qbgxmn0.

bioflex

Morality (from the Latinmoralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation among intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are good (or right) and bad (or wrong). A moral code is a system of morality (for example, according to a particular philosophy, religion, culture, etc.) and a moral is any one practice or teaching within a moral code. The adjectivemoral is synonymous with "good" or "right." Immorality is the active opposition to morality (i.e. good or right), while amorality is variously defined as an unawareness of, indifference toward, or disbelief in any set of moral standards or principles - That is how wikipedia defines it

So now the question is how do we determine whether a decision/action is good or bad? and does it apply to all humans? perhaps even animals?. Everyday we bear witness to acts which are quite disturbing, but to others its just good. Ask yourself how one can justify terrorism, or abortion, or incest, or wars, u name it. But yet still others look upon such actions with satisfaction and you wonder if something is wrong with them.

Who determines if something is right or wrong?good or bad, how come animals have a strick parttern of morality and yet humans are divided about issues every single day, what we consider good today might turn out to be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. There was a time when people frowned upon acts of abortion, and today we accept it, there was a time when people despised the just the thought of homosexuality, and yet today people welcome it whole heartedly, Slavery No?. Does all this seem justifiable? did our morality evolve? if it did what is the assurance that tomow it not be right to hold up a gun to another person's head in broad daylight and have nothing to worry about or.

Is someone really accountabe for what we are experiencing now, pulling the strings from behind the scene? could there be something out there? something we cant comprehend as humans? outside of our natural world?

If we came here not by our own means or by evolution as some beleive then its not far fetched to think that we are being influened by things we dont see, like spirits, demons, gods, u name it, and if we really are then there is got to be something they also consider as morally good or bad right?

Sometimes you wonder if factors like religion came about because some men thought of it as their way of taking charge, but the you go deeper and you realize things are very different, after all show me a religion which holds no connection to a higher form of being. And its obvious all religions are centered on one thing - God, though there be different means by which all these religions claim to lead to that very God.

So did God impose our morality?. did He set the standards of what is right and wrong?. I find it hard to believe that same God is responsible for our various divisions concerning morality. What if there are beings who reject those God's standards? could they be attributed to why there has been no cinsistence in our partern of morals. Cos all the animals i have known from the time i was a child till now still hold those same animal morals, they do the same over and over without change.

I really want to go on but i am quite worn out now, i being a christian believe that our broad sense of morality is a privlledge we enjoy as humans because of our freewill, i mean are not animals made to follow a specific parttern and live by specific morals? Some may argue about freewill, but dont forget that there is free will if you have a choice, the fact that there are consequencies dont not mean we dont have free will.

Suppose there are 2 people, and one of them chooses to smoke but the other does not, at the end of the day there are consequanceis for both of their actions which they exercised because of their free will. And the outcome is quite predictable for those 2 right?

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What exactly are men at the back of the hall taking care of?

by howdidtihappen in

once people have come in, and the doorman and the mic men are in place, why are there a few other suits scattered about at the back?

i saw a guy get up, sit down, get up, sit down, get up and when i looked what he was up to he was reading the noticeboard and looking around, waiting for a bus.

i figured he wasn't doing much at that point, but anything to not stay seated.

bioflex

The poor sister had to go back home to a very upset husband and we all knew what happened to her...the next meeting she showed up with a black eye...

This is the funniest thing i have heard all day, well i would say she should have come out to meet her husband initially, i am sure all the time she sat at the hall shew was thinking about what she would go through at home. i bet she wasnt even paying attention to what was being said.

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Serving Jehovah - by Law or by Love?

by TimothyT in

i have started reading in search of christian freedom by franz.

the idea of searching for christian freedom is very important to me, and i already know that this book is going to be very helpful in this regard.

on pages 12 and 13, i read something which has been on my mind recently regarding the removal of the mosaic law and its replacement with love through jesus christ.

bioflex

Now the only quesion that remain is, do we love by our mouths or our deeds?.Many christians profess to love God but live contrary to His word.

how can we say we love God and not do the things he expect of us. Jesus said in

Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.

Serving God in truth and love means living by his standards, which we all are bound to break along the way, that is why Jesus has always served as our mediator pleading with God on our behalf for the forgiveness of sins.

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still trying to get my head cleared

by beccaskids in

hi, everyone my name is becky i've been in and out of the organization it wasnt untill 2 years ago i finally put a end to going at all and havent been back since.it was so hard cause i have family in it and was grown up with those thoughts and rules way of life i guess you call it.my head is still in confusion most of the time.i'm currently going to a baptist church and i love it just when witnesess are brought up it upsets me even though it shouldnt cause i'm no long going to it.i feel like i dont know who to believe anymore or what is even good to read anymore.i'm on facebook alot and see alot of things on there but dont know the right people to talk to on there either about it,so i found this here.i'm 33 years old and dont think i should be struggling with such a thing but wow it is hard to get out of your head.i like reading the bible but sometimes i dont understand what is being said which is why the watchtowers i thought helped me but im finding they didnt i guess,yep confused as ever...

bioflex

First off welcome aboard.

All i want to say is that it all depends on what you aim for. Its never easy for anyone, in life we all have to make decisions and live to face the consequencies of those decisions. Stand fast in the faith, and know that you dont need any third party to set you right. Jesus is all yo need.

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Maybe we are perfect?

by angel.face in

i'm relatively 'new' to the concept of thinking for myself....coming to the conclusion that what i thought was 'the truth' simply isn't brought on many questions for me.... i find it hard to let go of the idea that there is a god, but at the same time i question his existence.. .

just a thought that i had today which i would like to share: .

taking into account the universe and the perfect harmony that exists within it... think about the human body... some of the perfect harmony that we see in the universe we can see in the functions of our bodies.

bioflex

It pretty funny how things turn out to be, i know many have their doubts about the Bible and all, i can blame them, but could you guys please be before you condemn something which IS (regarded) and the inspired word of God. And talking about the infaliability of the Bible i have come to realize that of a certainty the bible as we know it today is exactly how it should be, that is how God wants it.

Now about the arguements that there have been amendments to the bible, I am not suprised about this, and i dont expect people who just criticize the bible about its authenticy to understand too.

If the Jews(Most) didnt recongise Jesus as the messiah, and they didnt even know his birth was a fulfilment of prophecy from long ago written by the prohpehts, how then do you justify the idea that those same people are trying to put in some words in the Old testament to justify the bible?

Now many a places in the new testament do reference the old testament, which means that the new testament must also have been tempared with right. And the jews didnt have complete influence on the NT since it was written in Greek right like they did in the OT.

And about the link posted above, are you kidding me?. No wonder you know very little about the bible. Here is a quote

2. But when ye are gathered together, and pray in common, use not vain repetitions, for your heavenly Parent knoweth what things ye have need of before ye ask them. After this manner therefore pray ye:— 3. Our Father-Mother Who art above and within: Hallowed be Thy Name in twofold Trinity. In Wisdom, Love and Equity Thy Kingdom come to all. Thy will be done, As in Heaven so in Earth. Give us day by day to partake of Thy holy Bread, and the fruit of the living Vine. As Thou dost forgive us our trespasses, so may we forgive others who trespass against us. Shew upon us Thy goodness, that to others we may shew the same. In the hour of temptation, deliver us from evil.

Heavenly Parent?

Our Father-Mother?

I suppose this does not ring any bells to you which is understandable, after all you just dont belive in the bible.

Anyone on hear watched " THE TRUTH BEHIND HIP-HOP = 1 - 6 " , if not then i would recomment it to you all. Then you would understand where that DUALITY OF GOD concept came from.

And the bible talks about how certain men have crept in to teach false doctrines and to make corrupt the word of God. Well Jesus did warn of that in revelation though right, he said Dont add or take away from God's word. I suppose some people have a lot to answer for some day.

Another link that would be of really good help

http://watchmanvideobroadcast.com/blog

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Lol at Awake quote about gayz!

by TimothyT in

are you a member of the homosexual community?

) can you say that you have honestly found satisfaction and fulfillment in that way of life?

(being true to myself has brought me great happiness yes.

bioflex

I always seem to have a problem with the way the wt$ like to explain stuff, but either way when it comes to homosexuality i cant seem to understand how that is justifiable.

PSacramento quote : A gay friend of mine once said, " My life as a gay person is very hard, it would be far easier to NOT be gay, No one chooses to be gay Paul, no one choose to have a harder and more difficult life IF they have a choice".

so why then is he gay?.. was he born gay?..did he ever think he would have been born if he had gay parents?. Its one thing not knowing what is right and its totally something else knowing what is right and not doing it.

even animals know better when it comes to sexual preferences.

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Maybe we are perfect?

by angel.face in

i'm relatively 'new' to the concept of thinking for myself....coming to the conclusion that what i thought was 'the truth' simply isn't brought on many questions for me.... i find it hard to let go of the idea that there is a god, but at the same time i question his existence.. .

just a thought that i had today which i would like to share: .

taking into account the universe and the perfect harmony that exists within it... think about the human body... some of the perfect harmony that we see in the universe we can see in the functions of our bodies.

bioflex

Hmm, are we perfect? well in this state probably not, most of the time when we think about perfection in the human sense in really boiles down to one thing " imortality" . Being free from sickness, pain, aging, and all those things which puts us in a state of fear, unsecurity or degregation.

Well i for one have not had one bit of a problem believing in the existence of God. I mean just look at the things around us, i find it really hard to believe that everything that natural thing that exist in our universe came by some chance. Just imagine the complexity of even the life we have and its pretty easy to realise there is an inteligent design behind it which can only be made possible by a being of much higher existence and knowlegde.

And again looking at how we humans like to innovate, and bring forth new ideas, and above all we really like to take credit for the things we do too. This things make it much more immenent when we look at the idea that we were made in the image and likeness of this supreme being (God).

Now talking about the JW's view of perfection, its really troubling u know, cos all the short comings of man were passed down to us,and sin has been built into our genes and DNA from the time Adam and Eve did eat from the tree. That is why we can never live a perfect life as long as we are in this flesh. Just think about the lusts and desires we have as humans. Its built right into our genes.

Some people think when ever you have bad thoughts it seems some evil angel standing on your left shoulder and telling you to succumb to that evil thought, when in actual facts it comes right from our hearts. The lust of the flesh as the Bible calls it. Again it says all evil thoughts proceed from the heart of men and this is something you cannot just do away with just because you live a good life like they tell you in their perfect earth.

Perfection is something we hope to achieve as human beings, but no matter how we try we can surely not do it on own on. The Holy Bible says God has put the desire to live forver in the hearts of man, and it would surely come to fruition at the appointed time He God has purposed. All we can do is believe in Him and wait for Hime to do the rest.

Again the Bible says in 2Co 5:6 Then being always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body, we are away from home from the Lord.

Clearly we can see that living in the human paradise earth of the JW's are pratically not biblical.

There are many other places in the bible which talks about the perfection we hope to achieve, but none of them agrees with their view of living forever in our current form.

Would have loved to go on but gotta run now, hope i helped a bit, waiting to hear what you guys have to say too.

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Is the New Testament only for the 144,000 then?

by TimothyT in

if its right what the watchtower say and the new testament is only for the 144,000, then where the hell does everyone else fit in then?.

why do the other witnesses even bother?.

surely jesus sacrifice and the new testament are written for all professing to have faith in him?.

bioflex

i thougth perhaps i would add my quota to the discussion ongoing

it really makes me sad knowing that people who call themselves christians are so ingorant about the word of God, and for that matter almost all JW's . How they come into acceptance of only 144000 people going to heaven bothers me alot. People need to realiize that the Bible is as litteral it can be and if it talks about symbolic things it is quite to interpretate it for us.

Revelation clearly tells the specific and literal sence in which the 144000 is chosen and that is from the 12 tribes of Isreal. It even went as far as breaking down the numbers into the specific tribes.

And then there is the great crowd called out of all nations and languages on the earth, who are basically sincere christians of today.

Stop trying to make that Bible look like those other religious books that like to keep secrets and hide stuffs from ther followers like the free masons and all. And they would tell you " you really cant understand on your own" .

That is bad.

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Awake! November 2011 - correct cover

by processor in

there was an error on the latest awake!

cover.

here is the correct version.. .

bioflex

@poopsiecakes : you really got it all wrong there, so tell me, how do yo explain all the animals you mentioned earlier at their current location, so you mean the kangaroos just popped out in australlia, or since the climate there supported their living they just evolved there?, ever heard of migration? i mean doesnt science support that? both humans and animals alike migrate to locations that suit their living conditions NO? I dont really get what is impossible about all this, is it because kangaroos can't travel that far or what?

and stop telling me about science disproving the bible, its not true, maybe you should try and build an ark with Noah's dimensions and see if it floats or not.

and you are very wrong again, the same future does not await both humans and animals alike, at least think about all the superior features you posses as a human being, you have the ability to decide between good and bad, maybe if you just forgot all the crap you hear about the bible and find out how true and accurate its words are,then there is a chance for you to be saved and have the promise of eternal life,but no, i guess you believe we just evolved so thats that. well you can continue holding onto that crap for all i care,

have you ever thought of how splendid our universe is, i mean look at how unique everything blends together, have you ever though of how we have the force of gravity here on earth and not in space, have you ever thought of how the sea is always sticking to its bound without engulfing the earth, i really dont have to be telling you all this, yet you seem to ingore how much all these can only be acheived by design. Again let me remind you that every single tool ever made by man required intelligent design and not by some random event, yet you choose to ignore it all.

@MrFreeze : i dont think you are referring to the Jesus in the bible cos you would have known better that i only speak about Him. Again ever heard of MIGRATION ? just watch some documentary videos would you, then you would know how both humans and animals alike migrate to locations which suit their way of living.

Again please touch on my issues with the gaint humans okay, i really want to know what evolution has to say about all that.

God loves u.

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Awake! November 2011 - correct cover

by processor in

there was an error on the latest awake!

cover.

here is the correct version.. .

bioflex

hmm, I wake up every morning and i am really glad to be alive, i know for certain what awaits me in the future because i know where i am coming from. If there is one certainty in my life then its about God. I mean since you believe in evolution then i i guess you dont really no what awaits you in the future, you just live and die and thats it. I on the other hand have a very sure promise of life even if i should die now. At the end of the day, if there is a God who really is responsible for the life you posses then i am pretty sure you are going to be accountable for your life.

God help us all.