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Edited by - queer_reality on 12 September 2002 11:54:36
several weeks ago i asked a lot of you here about the involvement with the un.
you were really helpful in your replies.
thank you.. i approached an elder who i know is "up" on that sort of thing and guess what... he had no idea!.
Please take note of item # 3 regarding access to the U.N. libraries:
Edited by - queer_reality on 12 September 2002 11:54:36
i have a short question.. while you were in the truth would have been impressed by the quotes on the quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com page about 1914 and all the other wrong prophecies or would you have simply ignored or denied the accuracy of the quotes?.
would that have caused doubts or would you have found a way to rationalize the obvious lies?.
thanks a lot!.
My reaction would have depended on when in my life I read the quotes. I got out when I was about 19 years old. I had had a serious bout with doubt when I was about 11 or 12. I think I would have been receptive to the information at that time. However, by the time I was 14, my ApostoShields (thanks, Elsewhere) were doing their job. It wasn't until I was 17 that I took my doubts seriously. But even then, I figured that if the Bible was the real thing, then the jws probably were the closest to being on target interpretating it. I was mostly doubting that a god, as described by most christians (loving, omnipotent, omniscient, involved w/ our lives), could exist. But I was also often bothered by internal inconsistancies in jw "logic." I think I would have been much more receptive to such info by the time I was 18.
i have been reading posts here for several months, which has helped me to keep from going insane.
my doubts came when i finally got the nerve to leave a bad marriage, why did i stay so long.
because i was ashamed and really scared of what "jehovah" would think of me.
WELCOME!
Thank you very much for your loving, compassionate post. I'm sure everyone here feels as spiritually uplifted as I do.
queer_reality
P.S. please excuse me, I need to throw up now.
i just wanted to say hello and that i think it's nice to find a place where i can express myself if/when i need/want to, although i feel pretty timid about posting.
Welcome nilfun!
I'm a newbie myself. I read *way* more than I post and I've barely scratched the surface. I think it takes a lot of courage to pick up and move away from everything that is familiar. I never had the guts to that, though I did daydream about it. BTW, a *lot* of folks here have expressed difficulty in making/keeping close relationships. I'm lousey at it.
I'm often surprised at the diversity of people and opinions here. If you hang out for a while, you will likely be enlighted, offended, amuzed, horrified, and sometimes have to deal with a sore tummy from laughing so hard.
Welcome!
Edited by - queer_reality on 28 August 2002 20:39:11
nearly one year ago, my doubts were brought to the surface from the deepest bowels of my brain.
in fact, this site scared the poop out of me!
but, facts are facts.
>Satan is really blessing us
ROTFLMAO
thanks, DIM
how could anyone feel good about a paradise built on the bodies of 6,000,000,000 massacred people?
how could you join this religion and feel like you are doing "the right thing", be happy about such a paradise, rejoice in its righteousness, goodness, and wholesomeness?
i can understand being raised (forced) in it, but joining it?!
I was raised in it. I did not like the idea of all those bodies. I was always bothered that god would permenantly kill little babies just because their parents were bad. I was taught that *everyone* would have a chance to hear gods' word before the end. Those who did not heed gods' word would die. It was presented as a natural consequence -- cause and effect. If someone tells you to get off the train track because a train is coming, and you choose to ignore the warning, well, the train comes and you die. It's not the trains' fault.
This explaination was tolerable until I got to be about 15 yrs. old. I finally got to know a <gasp> "worldly" person. She wasn't evil. And she did not even believe in god, much less jw doctrine. She *did* have an idea for a utopian society based on chocolate. Why would a loving, all-knowing god kill her? Besides, I liked her utopia idea much better than the jw paradise. We're still friends.
Thanks, SPAZ. I needed that hug.
Sometimes it all just hurts so much...
This thread has brought tears to my eyes. I still remember that someone.
The memory has haunted me for years.
*sigh*
I'm terrified that the same thing might happen again.
Sometimes I am so very angry that I was taught such twisted intra- and inter-personal skills.
queereality
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i know i've posted a question similar to this before, but what with all the newcomers here, i thought no harm to ask the question again.. what do you enjoy doing with your spare time and why?.
celtic mark - cornwall uk
I love to read. I read online (here and elsewhere), I read books and in a pinch,
I'll read just about anything. I spend *way* too much time online.
I love to pester my obnoxious siamese cat.
I enjoy movies.
I don't watch much broadcast TV and I don't have a sattelite or cable so I don't watch 'premium programming'
I love being around the redwood trees, especially in the fog.
I enjoy driving, as in going somewhere, not sitting in a traffic jam.
queer_reality