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  Feeling Guilty

  by naazira in

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  2. friends

  i am feeling gulity because i will not be going to the summer convention.

  i just can not sit through the talks they are sooo boring.

  im cutting off all contact with the witnesses.

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  Mum

  It took me two years to realize that the JW's were not special. Be patient with yourself. Take baby steps. Missing the convention can be the first step. Then read some good books, take a class, join a club, and build a new life for yourself.

  Having a meeting with the elders was the catalyst to my realization that they are just another cult. The elders behaved so arrogantly and aggressively that I could not understand how they could claim to have any connection with God. They did not care about me or my spirituality or well-being in any way.

  Your guilt is misplaced. If you need to feel guilt, it would be better to feel guilty about not donating to local food banks, doing volunteer work in the community in such a way that it makes a difference in people's lives, and for not becoming the person you were meant to be instead of being controlled by people who don't give a d*** about you.
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  Youngest person disfellowshipped -- ever?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  2. scandals

  well?.

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  Mum

  Some years ago, I read an account online of a young woman who said she had been disfellowshipped at age 12. Her story was that she babysat for neighbors, and that the children's father raped her. I'm unclear on most of the details. In a way, this story raises more questions than it answers. There is also the fact that I've forgotten a lot. I do remember that it made me feel sick and horrified.

  She said that she reported the rape (to the elders? to her parents?), and a JC was assembled to interrogate her. She was criticized for wearing shorts in the summertime, wearing lipstick, and making herself a temptress of sorts. (Are men so pathetically weak that they can't stop themselves from raping a 12-year-old wearing shorts and lipstick?)

  The upshot of it all is that she was DF'd. Maybe she had unbelieving parents. I don't remember anything in the story about whether the rapist was prosecuted or even reported to the police by anyone.
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  How do you see yourself, a reformer, a rebel, a traitor, or HER MAJESTY'S LOYAL OPPOSITION?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you compare the immense majestic universe to a stable law- supported, immutable constitutional monarchy, or its non-royal equivalent,.

  where do you and i fit in, balking one way or another( and for various reason) at.

  the notion of the wt 8 representing that great entity?

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  Mum

  A remote peasant far from the seat of ruling power, just doing what's necessary to survive and having a good time when I can.
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  Hubby found out about me celebrating my kids birthday...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  told on me of course.

  apparently, the other jw thought he was kidding.. i just said, you tell on me and take my family from me, we are done.

  we will get a divorce and you will lose me, your home, and more then likely won't get to see your kids everyday the way you get to now.

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  Mum

  This mentality of believing what adults do must be reported to someone else is so childish! You're an adult! I believe you're probably old enough to make your own decisions and accept the consequences. Unfortunately, in your case, the consequences are artificial and contrived.

  Congratulations on sticking up for yourself and your kids. You GO, girl!
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  payback? bitterly upset....

  by losingit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i don't even know where to start.. more than anything, i'd like to say that i am not a woman of vengeance.

  i am very much a forgiving person.

  if you say "i'm sorry," and you're genuine, i can move on from it quickly and easily.

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  Mum

  I hope you have a strong attorney. You have a right to your own religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs.

  Your ex might try to intimidate you into indoctrinating your children. If they wish to go to the KH, I would take them, sit with them silently, then go out for a nice afternoon in the park and/or to a special meal at home or in a restaurant. If they want to talk about the meeting or JW stuff, just tell them you disagree, why you disagree, and that they have a right to choose for themselves what they believe.

  The important thing is how your children feel when they are with you. If they feel you are fighting their father, it will not make for a happy atmosphere. What children remember is how they felt with the people they grew up with. What is between you and your husband should have no effect whatsoever on the children.

  Painted Toenail, a poster here, recommended some books for children to teach them critical thinking. They are available from Amazon. They are called Blast of Logic (grades 3-4), Logic Liftoff (grades 4-6) and Orbiting with Logic (grades 5-7). For teenagers, she recommended Critical Thinking by Anita Harnadek. I have not seen these books personally, but I plan to buy them for my great granddaughter when she is old enough.

  Do what makes you happy. Help your kids learn to make themselves happy and to think for themselves. Best wishes.
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  So, Whats the real reason JWs are no concessions open at the DC and are discouraged from supporting nearby vendors?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so ever since they discontinues the food service at the assemblies and dcs, jws have been "lovingly encouraged" to pack a light lunch to eat.

  the secretary at the hall that i am held hostage in said during the service meeting that even a sub would be too heavy to eat, and that a light salad was the best option.

  what do you fine people think is the real reason why, in the absence of food service, jws are told to not leave the building at lunch?

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  Mum

  Money and control may be the primary issues.

  Nowadays they're so paranoid about apostates. I'm sure they've figured out that apostates are waiting near every restaurant door for JW's to appear so they can draw them away with lies, deceit and temptation. Apostates use big words, so the poor, defenseless JW's are impressed by their massive vocabularies and slick presentations. Apostates have good jobs and college degrees. They have good marriages and happy children. Their lives are not always satisfying, but they can change whatever they need to make them better. Apostates are seductive, beautiful, clever, presenting themselves as angels of light to tempt the typical deprived, frustrated JW into a life of making their own decisions and accepting reality with no comforting fairy tales about the future destruction of 99+% of the human race. Oooooooh!
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  Elders = Politicians???

  by toto555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the back-door politics, white-washing of elder mistakes, selective enforcement of rules etc.

  aren't elders not much different than any other political position out there in the world (mayor, congressman, senator etc.)?

  doesn't the same hold true as well for co, do, etc.?

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  All corporations are run on politics.

  I used to have a job, and my co-worker had narcissistic personality disorder. I had never heard of NPD, but I was describing her behavior to a therapist, and she told me that it sounded like NPD. She went on to say that many CEO's and politicians have NPD. I'm sure many religious leaders have it, too. I looked up NPD on the internet, and the list of traits associated with it fit my co-worker like a glove. My father also had it.

  When I was taking university classes, I was discussing religiion with a classmate. She told me she had an uncle who was a bishop in the Roman Catholic Church, and he had told her that reaching that position was all politics.
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  Yours Truly Samuel Herd

  by wasblind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awake july 2013 is a message that sam herd truly believes, it states :.

  " proponents of social unrest would claim ( emphasis mine ) that protest have accomplished the following ".

  " provide relief for the poor.

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  Mum

  It seems to me that the WTS is exploiting this African American's presence on the GB to keep folks "in their place" which, in their view, is to accept one's lot as a nobody and live a life of "quiet desperation."

  In 2002 (I think), I attended the Silentlambs march in Brooklyn. We all gathered in front of the WT headquarters and said our piece, such as "No more pedophiles at my door" and "What are you afraid of?" (in response to their hiding from us). Finally, an African American man came outside and closed an iron gate in front of the entrance to the building. I don't know if that man was Mr. Herd or not, but I could not help but wonder why the white folks didn't have the cojones to do it.
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  How to End “the Silent Treatment” ~ Wha?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the irony is so thick you can cut a knife with it.

  the watchtower must have some real cognitive dissonance.

  read it for your self:.

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  Mum

  We who have read 1984 recognize it as "doublespeak."
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  Will we grow old and die?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  http://www.eldritchdark.com/tributes/poetry/235/the-stoick.

  a beautiful way of putting the truth .

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  Mum

  I am learning to live by this motto: Do not regret growing old. It is a privilege denied to many.