My understanding is that very few JW's want to be elders these days, and they try to press anyone they can into eldership. i.e., they're desperate. To me, the fact that this young man has self-doubt means he actually may be one of the better elders.
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9I Know A MS That Just Got Reappointed As An Elder After 5 Years And Still Thinks He's Not Qualified
by minimus inhe's a very good man and recognizes his limitations.
he still dislikes field service and considers himself inferior to the other elders.
he has almost no contact with his disfellowshipped older son.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT false prophets
by SloppyJoe intonight on the service meeting we discussed why jws are not false prophets.
of the ten minute part two were spent discussing that jws just had wrong expectations and only very minor changes over the years although nothing specific was mentioned.
the other eight focused on the core bible truths that have remained the same over the years.
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It's like saying, "I'm not a murderer. I'm just a person who has killed a few people."
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Reverse Shunning -- Is It Really Worth It?
by Narcissistic Supply increating an alternate reality through ambient abuse, gaslighting, and 4 generations of bullshit.
is it really worth it engaging in reverse shunning.
im praying for more ambient abuse to take me back to kansas, toto.. .
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Quendi, I usually agree with you, but I have some issues with your view this time.
I do think there's no reason to go out of our way to see JW's or interact with them. But, if I see someone I know, JW or not, I will acknowledge them. It would be rude not to. They are the ones being a**holes, so I'm willing to be the nobler party, and to let them be seen for what they are.
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I do not believe Horoscope BS but......
by Iamallcool inmost of my dates including my ex wife in my lifetime was born in the month of august.
i was born in april.
i am trying to figure out why i keep dating someone that was born in august.
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August is the most common birth month, probably because of the November holidays. My mother and my ex-husband were both born in August.
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The Confessed Pedophile Who Raped Me Is Going To Be Made A Elder Again, Need Help Please!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inyears ago you read my horror stories about being raped by a jw.
i was nine years old when this took place, now the man has been getting all his works in order.
what do i do to stop the seventy-year old pedophile from getting his position back?
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Are you getting counseling? Does your local District Attorney's office have victim advocates for people who are sexually abused?
You need help and support. Please see a counselor who specializes in child molestation AND call the DA's office and find out if there is any way to get a victim advocate appointed for you.
As others have said, don't worry about the statute of limitations. Just try to do whatever you can to let the community know.
Do you have friends who will pass out flyers in the neighborhood where he lives to notify his neighbors that a child molestor lives close by? Do you have friends who will picket the Kingdom Hall with you if he is reappointed?
Alert the media. Alert law enforcement (DA and police). Alert his neighbors. Just make sure people know exactly who he is and exactly what he did over as wide an area as possible.
Please take care of yourself. Please get help.
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Is The WTS Building Beth Sarim 2 ?
by metatron ini continue to puzzle over the future direction the watchtower is taking.
it seems very strange.. let's review: they are selling everything off in brooklyn, raking in huge sums from that real estate and building heavily in a fairly isolated part of upstate ny.. why?.
it may be classified as a country club (legally).
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If ex-JW's want to walk in front with protest signs, will anyone be around to notice?
If they have to pay millions in child molestation lawsuits, can they pay it with interest off the profit they're making?
If they decide to stop being a religion because they don't want to pay out on lawsuits, can they split the money among the 8, and all be instant multi-millionaires?
It's impossible to know their motives, but they have to be getting something out of it, or they wouldn't do it. So saith Dr. Laura (not about the WT, but about other things that don't have a clear explanation).
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What Blondie said.
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Interesting experience while protesting at district conventions
by theron ware infor three weekends this summer, a friend and i protested outside district assemblies being held in the tucson convention center.
our approach was very low key and completely non-confrontational: we just held our posters and smiled.
this was our experience at the first two assemblies (for the third assembly, see the next paragraph).
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My way of protesting is to print labels listing apostate websites. When I see a Watchtower or Awake! left in public places, such as laundromats, I slap a label on the front of it. Sometimes I go into laundromats and other places just to see if there are any publications there.
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In your own words,,,,,,
by label licker inplease tell my thirty-six year old niece what you would tell all your loved ones if they were to go back to the cult because they wanted to see their loved ones again.. she was df'd at sixteen for being a teenager with an anxiety disorder, her dad had walked out on her and her family(2 other sisters) when they were young and never supported them or the mother.
all of them had to live with their grandmother.
after the last child left home, their father has their mother move back in with him.
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April, it is clear that you do not value yourself. What your father, then your mother, did to you is inexcusable. Don't judge yourself or treat yourself the way you do because of your parents. You are a wonderful person, and not like them.
Please learn to value yourself enough not to let others take advantage of you. Marilyn French said that life rewards you for pleasure and punishes you for pain. You are a prime example of the latter part of that sentence. But you need to do something about it. What kind of life do you want? Do you even know? A counselor might be able to help you set goals for yourself, then steps to reach those goals.
Are you prepared for the heavy burdens of being a JW again? Do you want to always be reading their self-aggrandizing literature? Do you want to obey, even if it hurts you or others, and makes no sense? Do you want to go in field service to try to convert others to a religion you don't even believe in? Do you want to be criticized for what you wear, what kind of entertainment you choose, who your friends are, and such nonsense. You have earned the right to make your own decisions and live in freedom. I hope you won't give up the freedom and potential you have to make a goode life for yourself.
What do you like to do, or what would you like to learn? Knitting, ceramics, jogging, walking, great books, making jewelry? It's all there for you if you will give it to yourself. Visit the public library and find some books on subjects that interest you, or just some good books to read for pleasure. Listen to self-help and motivational tapes. When I was a JW, I was complaining to a friend about what my husband would not allow me to do. Her reply was one I'll never forget. She said, "Sometimes you have to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps." I realized then that I was an adult living as though I were still a child.
You don't need anyone's permission to live your life your way. Decide what you want, and go after it!
I recommend Dr. Wayne Dyer's book Your Erroneous Zones to get you started. He gives you reason to not worry about what others think of you and has strategies for coping with negative emotions.
Best wishes for a happier life from here on out.
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Oh I thought JWs were just a "normal" religion
by fresh prince of ohio ini have found that, since leaving jws, that few "wordly" people seem interested in hearing my escape story (although some certainly have shown great interest).
when i've mentioned that i used to be a jw and that i left, the reaction i've gotten on more than one occasion is a "oh i thought they were just a normal religion", and not only that, it's like they just weren't at all even open to the idea that jws could be a really strange and cultish group.
on these occasions, i felt a little lost for words trying to explain to people just how crazy jwism is, because there's so much crazy to tell about, where do you even start?.
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Up until the age of 9, I never heard anything good about JW's. My grandparents' generation called them "Hobeys" and had heard all sorts of unfavorable rumors about them. In the '50's, they were few and far between, but people knew they were crackpots.
Fast forward to the new millenium. I told a co-worker I had been in a cult, and, of course, he asked which one. When I told him, he said, "They're not a cult. They're just weird." So I explained shunning, even within families, and letting children die when they needed a blood transfusion, and a few other gems. I think he changed his mind.
One day I was talking to my boss about cults. He told me JW's were just people who took the Christmas cookies home and ate them in front of the fire instead of in the office with everyone else. I gave him the same lesson, but I'm not sure he got it, or even quite believed it. JW's are so into image that I think they got over on him.
That's all I have to say about that. - Forrest Gump