KateWild: When I first saw the word 'dub," I thought it meant that JW's didn't have to think for themselves, that they just "dubbed" what they downloaded from the Watchtower.
However, someone told me that it was an abbreviation for J Double U.
it came to me as i typed a reply on a fbook apostate group:.
dubbish !!.
the words jw's come out with.. _________________________________________________.
KateWild: When I first saw the word 'dub," I thought it meant that JW's didn't have to think for themselves, that they just "dubbed" what they downloaded from the Watchtower.
However, someone told me that it was an abbreviation for J Double U.
new childrens activity on jw.org - "they listened and obeyed".
am i too skeptical or is there an implication that those who are disobedient are likened to lepers?.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/family-worship-projects/they-listened-obeyed/.
Teaching people simply to obey instead of analyzing situations and making appropriate decisions based on their own best interest is one of the worst evils of religion. I grew up that way, and was reinforced constantly for being a "good girl." Then it took its toll when I couldn't obey every master I had because they all told me differently. So, I read Wayne Dyer, and the rest is history. It's still hard to stand up for myself, and I fail many times, but I'm getting better and better. AND, I like myself and others much better, too.
these are apparently real complaints received from a uk tour operator.
no country has a monopoly on having stupid people!.
these are actual complaints received by thomas cook vacations from dissatisfied customers:.
The spoiled, easy-life people are the same everywhere, n'est-ce pas? Excuse my French!
ever since i've learned ttatt the love for my wife, df'd family, worldly family and people in general has become more real!
it's like there is no one telling me who and how to love it just comes naturally with real true love!!!
also i've seen that i have become less depressed and have actualy started tolose weight!
Your "natural affection" has been restored!
hello all, can anyone give me some inputt on the masons.
im always leary about cults and joining groups.
but the masons seem ok too me.. i want to join because of new freinds and just network with people.
The masons apparently have secret rituals. I don't know if you've seen the John Ankerberg Show, but it's about religion. There are often exposés of cults, including JW's, on John's show.
In the '80's, John did a show about the Masons. Afterwards, he received death threats. I was shocked and horrified!
The Masons also finance Shriners' Hospitals for Children. I personally have received great benefit from them.
You might have to go along with some weird stuff, but you might also get a chance to help disabled kids. Do what's right for yourself regardless of your decision.
just wanted to introduce myself.
i've made a few comments here and there on the lovely jwn i started to wake up to ttatt this year.
basically, i'm a born in jw and was baptized at 16. lived a double life until i wa 25 and beat myself up about it constantly.
Good for you! I think lots of JW's lead double lives. After all the "ideal" JW life is impossible anyway.
Best wishes! Welcome to freedom!
actually, in my experience, i have not found them to be tighter or more generous with money.
i've found them to be about the same with handling money as non-jws, though less likely to invest their money, but unlikely to waste it on cigarettes, pubs/clubs and gambling like many non-jws do.
i certainly don't find them tighter or stingier than normal people though, and slightly more honest.. what are your experiences with jws and money compared to non-jws and money?.
Apparently, some years ago ('50's or early '60's) the JW's had a convention in New York. In one of the local newspapers, it reported something to the effect that "they came into town with the 10 commandments and a 10-dollar bill, and didn't break either of them." This is hearsay on my part, but I have no reason not to believe it.
Once my JW ex-husband and I and an older sister ate at a local restaurant. The waitress was having a bad day, and the older sister said, "Don't leave her a sign of a tip!" I told him that waitresses are poor and may have children at home. Then I asked him, "Would you like it if you had to live on handouts from your customers? Don't you have a bad day sometimes?"
My experience with American JW's is that they are more tight-fisted with money than most other people.
not because i agree with him.
because i do not want the divorce.
but because i love him and i want to respect him.
losingit: cog_survivor reminded me of some things. Your local DA's office or City Attorney's office may well have victim advocates to help you through this episode in your life. I worked in domestic violence for a time and learned a lot. There may be a way for you to get money for education or job training (get it from your ex if you can get your attorney to persuade the judge that you need it).
Your children are likely to do what you do. They see what we do much more than they listen to what we say. Think of them when you are behaving in such a submissive and passive manner. Is that what you want them to do? What kind of life do you want for them? The kind you have?
Find out about all the resources there may be available to someone in your situation. Use them to improve your life.
Best wishes,
Mum
funny story: back in march i was talking with mom on the phone.
the topic of how great the nwt was, compared to other bibles.
thanks to jwn, i said "o wouldn't be surprised if we had a new bible by this time next year.
Funny!
My ex-husband, my daughter's father, told my daughter last week that I was "being used by Satan and the demons." I don't know what they've got me doing because my life is one of the dullest on the planet.
my dear granny hasn't been feeling well for some time and has had a problem keeping anything down.
she had lost a lot of weight and gone for many tests.
those tests came back and on friday we were told she has cancer of the pancreas.
My sympathy. Losing a beloved granny is one of the hardest things to face. I'm glad you get to be with her.