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  What now?

  by thedog1 in

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  2. bible

  i don't know if it has been a good thing or a bad thing to have found this site.

  i stumbled on it about a year ago as i mentioned in previous posts.

  it has opened my eyes to so many things, but right now all is confusion.

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  Mum

  Your post reminds me of a guy I saw on 60 Minutes (an American "magazine" show, for those who don't know about it) who had been a 4th-generation prisoner in N. Korea. He had grown up in the prison and had no concept of life in the outside world. Even after years of freedom, he still could not understand the concepts of "love" or "romance."

  This poor, deluded man actually turned in two family members for breaking rules, and those family members were executed. He stated that he really thought they deserved to die at the time because he had no other frame of reference.

  Being in a closed society, cutting yourself off from regular, non-brainwashed human beings, and being required to turn others in just to survive, do not create healthy, happy human beings. Even though it's painful for you right now, it is a blessing to have a different perspective when attending the brainwashing sessions. Knowledge is power. I hope you will find the strength to break free.

  Best wishes for a happier future!
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  Would you do this to your kids? Is this cold or am I crazy?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mentally in jw wife is trying to organize a "princess party" for my 4 year old daughter and her little cousins and friends.

  she was looking at prices of a tent for the backyard party in case it rains.

  she asked the hardware store how much and they said 90 dollars for the day.

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  Mum

  LOL, berrygerry! Seriously, I cannot imagine having so little feeling for one's children or grandchildren! In my family, we take turns babysitting my great granddaughter for free while her mom works full-time. We love having her around and are constantly amused by her little "experiments." She's 1.5 years old and a pure delight (most of the time)!

  Your in-laws' wiring is crossed or shorted out in some manner. Are they robots?
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  Denmark Assembly Hall and 7 KH for sale

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is the real estate page: http://propertysale.dk/salg/helsinkivej.html.

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  Mum

  According to some poll I heard about, Denmark is the happest country in the world, i.e. the honest-to-goodness, really happiest. It must be hard to convince happy, secure people to believe conditions are deplorable and sell them on North Korean-like propaganda.
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  Women elders, what difference would they make?

  by Freedom77 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.

  they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.

  stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.

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  Mum

  Thanks, Birdie!
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  Coloring book activity for kids: Lot's wife dying

  by rebel8 in

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  2. friends

  omg.

  would you have your kids do this activity?

  so messed up.. .

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  Mum

  Darth the Sequel: Only 2 or 7 of each animal was taken aboard the ark, so 99.9999999-infinity percent of animals died, too. Animals are not inclined to "worship" anything, so maybe that's why. I think Billy the Ex-Behelite made an even stronger point about the animals aboard the ark. That is, how did kangaroos, koalas, platypuses and other marsupials get across the oceans and continents to be placed into that ark?
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  Women elders, what difference would they make?

  by Freedom77 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.

  they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.

  stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.

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  Mum

  I am a woman and have been a JW and an elder's wife, and have seen behind the curtain of the facade of "love" among the "brothers." Women have a different perspective on things, especially as it concerns children. On the one hand, I think child molestors might not get off so easily. I think DF'ing a teenager who was baptized long before he/she understood what he/she was getting into might be frowned upon a lot more, and the child might receive more "counseling" before being thrown to the wolves.

  On the other hand, I think women would resist such appointments, as their ego is not so tied up with position and power. Women have a greater need, IMHO, to feel "qualified" for a position. My grandmother believed that Walter Mondale lost the presidential election because of "that woman," his female running mate. Women see themselves as inferior because we've internalized what society has told us about ourselves. A few women are breaking out of that mentality, particularly women of Generation Y. My granddaughter clearly does not see herself as inferior or subject to anyone's innate "superiority." (You go, girl!)

  I used to be a doormat. As a result, I could no longer tolerate my life and had to start anew for the sake of my mental health. My elder ex-husband told me I "had a problem with subjection," meaning I had my own wishes and desires outside of being his personal slave.

  It is not just JW's who have kept women "in their place." Almost all religions do to some degree. It would be very modern of them to buck tradition and have more equality among people. I agree that it could happen, but all hell might break loose if it did. Even "worldly" men hate it when a woman is the boss, or even given opportunities traditionally closed to women.
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  The Deepak Chopra Random Quote Generator

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this computer program generates random quotes that sound just like actual chopra woo woo.... what gem do you get to guide you through life today?.

  i got .... "death fascinates the progressive expansion of excellence"something to think about!.

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  Mum

  "Your heart transcends formless knowledge."

  "Freedom is an ingredient of intrinsic sensations."
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  Snare & Racket's Graduation Picture

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.

  he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .

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  Mum

  Inspiring!
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  Need a Game Plan

  by bafh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm not sure what is going on at the convention, but i just got a desperate call from a friend wanting me to attend sunday's morning session.

  last weekend, my mom invited me too.instead of saying something like, "i'm sorry, but i have no intention of going back," and having them completely freak out - i agreed to go to the sunday morning session.

  any recommendations?

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  Mum

  Will you be sitting with your friend (I assume you will). You can take your cell phone and ask people to call you at certain times so you will have an excuse to go somewhere to take the "private" phone call. If you don't want to stay, make up some "crisis" that is "forcing" you to leave. Be polite and kind (which I'm sure you would anyway) so your friend won't have any reason to believe you're "demonized" or unduly "under the influence of 'Satan.'" I understand your feeling that you "must" go, and that's okay. Judt don't take anything seriously. AND don't let your friends sense of panic draw you in.

  If you're having trouble making friends, take a class or join a club (Toastmasters would be great!) so you meet new people. Look in the newspaper or online for events in your town you might like to attend. There are many ways to meet people besides going back to the Kingdom Hall. There are some great people out there you'll relate to. Have you ever attended an Apostafest?

  Best wishes!
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  GB guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. How can JW's believe this stuff?

  by integ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the gb is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes.

  blasphemy against god by claiming they "speak for jehovah".

  they said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of jehovah and we should listen to those words.

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  Mum

  GB speak with forked tongue. But the money keeps rolling in anyway. Why mess with success?